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1.An Interview With Paul Graham...
42 points by blored on Sept 6, 2007 | 20 comments

No, migpwr, I'm a hardass.
3.Need a partner to apply to YC with? Fill out your half of the app and find like minded people (hackermatcher.com)
34 points by bokonist on Sept 6, 2007 | 13 comments
4.This is what happens when you lend money to poor people (bloomberg.com)
27 points by dpapathanasiou on Sept 6, 2007 | 30 comments
5.What happens when you put a PC in the wall of an Indian slum? (greenstar.org)
27 points by kf on Sept 6, 2007 | 3 comments

1) No. We'd do charitable donations individually, not through YC.

2) I don't know of any, but that doesn't mean there aren't any.

3) I like the stuff I work on. You don't need a respite from work you like.

4) We wouldn't trust anyone else enough. We'd rather see if we can cook up some clever way of doing everything ourselves.

5) Write essays.

6) I haven't given up on painting. But the web has opened a window for writing essays that never existed before, so I decided I'd spend a couple years mostly writing.

7.Can Lisp do What Perl Does Easily? (groups.google.com)
25 points by _csoo on Sept 6, 2007 | 45 comments
8.Is Enterprise Software Failing The Innovation Test? (gigaom.com)
23 points by luccastera on Sept 6, 2007 | 18 comments

What's fair about buying something at a price that you think is worth it, then going back a month later and complaining you aren't happy anymore?
10.10 Articles That Changed My Life (lifereboot.com)
21 points by ahsonwardak on Sept 6, 2007
11.Image Compression: Seeing what's not there (ams.org)
18 points by pg on Sept 6, 2007 | 1 comment
12.Move over mod_python, here comes mod_wsgi. (micropledge.com)
18 points by benhoyt on Sept 6, 2007 | 17 comments

"History has shown rather completely that charity is useless or harmful."

Oh?

Anyone here go to UChicago? That was Rockefeller's philanthropy. How about CMU? Carnegie-Mellon. Who watched Square One as a kid? Also Carnegie & Mellon. Ever aspired to being a Nobel Laureate? Alfred Nobel, the person who got rich off dynamite. The math competitions I went to were sponsored by a variety of corporate charities. The Intel and Westinghouse science competitions are Intel and Westinghouse's charitable programs, respectively. Olin College was started by liquidating the Olin Foundation.

My high school was started with a grant from the Annenberg Foundation. I credit it with getting me interested in startups in the first place. It's now doing teacher training with a $500K grant from the Gates Foundation.

One of my mom's friends is involved with schools in Africa. She says that the Gates Foundation has made a massive difference over there. Children who would otherwise die from childhood illnesses are going to school, learning to read and write, and even learning how to use computers.

I think a better lesson to draw from history would be that attempts to distribute money are always fraught with unintended consequences, so tread carefully. However, you don't get to be a billionaire if you're not careful with money. Gates and Rockefeller and Carnegie don't need our advice on how to put their money to good use. I'd hardly say that Gates is "throwing away" his money.

(Paul Allen, OTOH - really, can you say that the Portland Trailblazers are worth more than saving 70 million kids from measles?)

14.Concerning trend in commenting on news.yc submissions
19 points by aston on Sept 6, 2007 | 39 comments
15.Screen Shots And Feature Overview of Delicious 2.0 Preview (techcrunch.com)
17 points by aston on Sept 6, 2007
16.How's your YC Winter 2008 application coming along?
17 points by wonjun on Sept 6, 2007 | 33 comments

Dont forget #7...

7) Are my lips hurting your ass?

18.NetApp Sues Sun for ZFS Patent Infringement and Appeals to Hackers to Understand (netapp.com)
13 points by staunch on Sept 6, 2007 | 5 comments
19.More from the Trenches - Rick Segal advises someone to go for small scale acquisition angering other VCs (ricksegal.typepad.com)
14 points by brett on Sept 6, 2007 | 1 comment
20.Creator of Hotmail plans to found new Indian city (nanocity.in)
11 points by trekker7 on Sept 6, 2007 | 3 comments

So far this thread is setting the record for deleted comments, as people who responded angrily realize it was a parody.

Perhaps the reason people reacted so violently is that they can imagine some reasonable arguments that sound like these. I.e. this is a case of people being made maddest by statements they worry might be true.


Is everyone just sucking up/karma whoring by agreeing with PG?

I think the volume of comments is at least partially because everyone reads them and thinks about them.

Or is PG the only thing worth talking about here?

Hardly, but given that it was his essays that brought many (most?) of us here to begin with, it's something we all have in common. So his essays generally get more attention. Furthermore, his essays tend to attract attention from all over, and visitor comments probably wind up on news.yc.

23.Are Rich People Parasites? (mises.org)
12 points by nickb on Sept 6, 2007 | 18 comments
24.Rails' Unusual Architecture (savagexi.com)
12 points by nickb on Sept 6, 2007 | 1 comment
25.Wired: "How Mark Zuckerberg created the web's hottest platform." (wired.com)
9 points by Readmore on Sept 6, 2007 | 9 comments

Note the date. In 2000, Perl was, by far, the leading scripting language (and language for the web). I'm certain that if this rant were written today, it would target PHP, and possibly even Ruby and Python. Ironically, perhaps, modern Perl is more lisp-like than any other mainstream language (aside from JavaScript, in some ways), and so this article merely says, "Mainstream languages that come pretty close to Lisp are brain-damaged and you'd have to be a particular breed of crazy to use it for anything."

Buying the 1st generation of an apple product is never a great idea, if you are going to be pissed off about problems or future price drops. Its just something that hardcore apple fans expect from apple and love about apple. I try and let others find the problems and buy the 2nd lot which either has more capacity or is slightly cheaper.

I guess with the iPhone a lot of the customers are first time apple customers, so they don't know how the system works.

28.World's first per-seat,on-demand jet service cleared for take-off (dayjet.com)
11 points by ranparas on Sept 6, 2007 | 3 comments

I am so pissed that my million dollar cancer treatment has come down in price to $500. I mean, sure, I got treated two months ago, and I would be dead right now had I not, but that wasn't the point. Living is nice, but what I really wanted from this cancer treatment was to live while others who couldn't afford it died. I guess there is some small consolation in the fact that a lot of people died during a couple months there, but this whole thing just pisses me off. I don't know if my slight, smug satisfaction at their deaths was worth the million bucks. On a normal technology schedule, I would expect at least a year of deaths; didn't Apple know we were counting on that? I hate you Apple.

"Do you think the presence of a well-run Emerging Markets investment fund through Gates' money would help Africa more or less than free Vista-loaded computers?"

Until Africa has the institutions necessary to support a free market, Gates's philanthropy (which actually is aimed more towards health and basic literacy than free computers) is much more useful than an Emerging Markets fund.

Many die-hard free-marketers don't realize this, but markets require significant institutional support before they even become workable, let alone efficient. You need private property rights. You need contract law. You need courts that enforce laws in a predictable, non-arbitrary way. You need literacy. You need a culture that believes that it's worth sacrificing today's pleasure for tomorrow's happiness. You need a rational belief that there will be a tomorrow, and you won't die from some random illness or machete-toting warlord in the meantime. You need transportation infrastructure to move goods and services between locations. You need a stable currency that's accepted by everyone you're likely to do business with and won't be hyperinflated away on a warlord's whim.

Africa has none of these.

So pouring any sort of money into Africa, whether it comes from charitable donations or a hedge fund, means pouring it down a black hole. There's nothing special about the private sector that makes it immune to this. Normally, private firms do better because ones that fail get replaced by ones that succeed. Well, fine. They'll all fail, as will all their replacements.

Gates is working at trying to supply the basic infrastructure necessary for a market economy to emerge. In order to have markets, you must have contracts and private property. In order to have contracts, you must have literacy. In order to have literacy, you must have education. In order to have education, you need a reasonable belief that you won't die next week from a random illness.

So the Gates Foundation starts the process there: ensure that people have a reasonable belief that they won't die next week. It finds villages that already have a reasonably stable food supply and are not in the middle of a civil war (those, for the moment, are beyond help unless you get the U.S. military involved). It then vaccinates the children, installs pumps for clean water, teaches them some basic sanitation rules like "don't shit upstream of your water supply", and so on.

Education only becomes realistic once children have a reasonable expectation that they won't die. Once they do, you can work on literacy. Once you have literacy you can try to change the institutions of the host country. More likely, you'd want to get some small-scale trade going among villages and between villages and the West. This is why the Internet is potentially so important over there - it lets African villagers bypass the corrupt warlords and governments above them.

But not before they have the basics down. It's meaningless to speak of an Emerging Markets fund going into many African countries. There's no market at all, let alone an emerging one.


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