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1.Pokemon Yellow hack recodes the game from within (tasvideos.org)
315 points by Luc on Dec 8, 2012 | 53 comments
2.Nomic (wikipedia.org)
242 points by eugeniodepalo on Dec 8, 2012 | 84 comments
3.Ask HN: A place like HN but with more nerdy stuff and less social stuff?
238 points by Xcelerate on Dec 8, 2012 | 171 comments
4.Holding a Program in One's Head (2007) (paulgraham.com)
213 points by mmphosis on Dec 8, 2012 | 101 comments
5.How I coached a basketball team in Afghanistan and what went wrong (nplusonemag.com)
212 points by drpp on Dec 8, 2012 | 59 comments
6.Pushing Nginx to its limit with Lua (cloudflare.com)
201 points by jgrahamc on Dec 8, 2012 | 57 comments
7. Can websites personally identify visitors? (plus.google.com)
173 points by goatcurious on Dec 8, 2012 | 107 comments
8.Don't Be Lazy, Use HTML Labels Correctly (goodsense.io)
173 points by sherm8n on Dec 8, 2012 | 55 comments
9.A New Project To Run Mac OS X Binaries On Linux (phoronix.com)
160 points by buster on Dec 8, 2012 | 58 comments
10.The In-game Economics of Ultima Online (1999) (mine-control.com)
125 points by simonsarris on Dec 8, 2012 | 43 comments
11.Exploring Emacs (hackerschool.com)
125 points by happy4crazy on Dec 8, 2012 | 40 comments
12.Scapy: a powerful interactive packet manipulation program (secdev.org)
108 points by ColinWright on Dec 8, 2012 | 13 comments
13.Banjo Tooie for N64 finally cracked (eurasia.nu)
109 points by ramiwi on Dec 8, 2012 | 25 comments
14.CheckIO is a videogame you play by writing Python. (checkio.org)
87 points by brownbat on Dec 8, 2012 | 22 comments
15.Train Philosophers with Pearl and Kahneman, not Plato and Kant (lesswrong.com)
83 points by pizu on Dec 8, 2012 | 125 comments
16.Survey of MIT Students on their Stress (tech.mit.edu)
84 points by FrojoS on Dec 8, 2012 | 64 comments
17.USB NeXT Keyboard with an Arduino Micro (adafruit.com)
81 points by jwcooper on Dec 8, 2012 | 14 comments
18.Show HN: a distraction-free Markdown editor (asleepysamurai.com)
74 points by chaosprophet on Dec 8, 2012 | 46 comments
19.How to Destroy an Arduino (ruggedcircuits.com)
72 points by harrydoukas on Dec 8, 2012 | 30 comments

> "Silicon Valley is set in the high tech gold rush of modern Silicon Valley, where the people most qualified to succeed are the least capable of handling success."

This could work.

21.Android's Google Now services headed for Chrome, too (cnet.com)
67 points by Pr0 on Dec 8, 2012 | 24 comments
22.Please do not use Feedburner service (garron.me)
63 points by urlwolf on Dec 8, 2012 | 28 comments
23.Scientists warn of sperm count crisis (richarddawkins.net)
61 points by cs702 on Dec 8, 2012 | 81 comments
24.Parrot Learns to Drive Robotic Buggy His Owner Designed and Built (sites.google.com)
59 points by yareally on Dec 8, 2012 | 21 comments
25.Show HN: Miyagi - A Journal of Application Development (miyagi.herokuapp.com)
59 points by ryandaigle on Dec 8, 2012 | 28 comments
26.Federal Agency wants black boxes in every new car by September 2014 (arstechnica.com)
58 points by evo_9 on Dec 8, 2012 | 53 comments
27.The Scourge of Error Handling (drdobbs.com)
53 points by mmastrac on Dec 8, 2012 | 17 comments

The argument is absurd. Claiming that universities are "poisoning minds" by teaching Aristotle and Descartes in 101 Intro to Philosophy courses is just silly. Those same universities teach modern philosophy courses that deal with the intersection of science and philosophy – judging by my one or two philosophy friends, philosophers are much more interested in the practical discoveries of psychology, math, and science than practitioners in those fields are interested in the most challenging branches of philosophy, which is a damn shame.

The reason Aristotle and Descartes are taught, the reason the roots of philosophical study are so important, is that philosophy at its highest is the process of directing inquiry at that which is not yet examined. Plato's Laws and Aristotle's Poetics mark some of the earliest attempts made by man to reason about the world simply through observation and lengthy reasoning. Descartes' work is even more breathtaking, in a sense, in that Descartes took the process of philosophers before him and developed a formalized explanation of how that process worked, then insisted that we could not fully understand the universe unless we applied this process to slowly revealing it. It was the birth of modern science, and it followed a profound philosophical insight.

Philosophy is a conversation that goes back thousands of years. Modern philosophy is so fascinating that of course there's a temptation to skip right to it – in my personal studies, I bounce back and forth between contemporary writers and writers from other centuries and millennia, letting the former refine my understanding of the latter and the latter provide context for the former. But the process of philosophy's development is important to teach, not to mention a somewhat exhilarating story when told properly.

Those contemporary articles the author scorns are proof that you can take two or three sentences from anything and make it sound much worse than it is. Yes, some of those subjects have been debated for years and years – that's a feature, not a bug. Philosophy's purpose is to search not for an answer to the surface questions (and when you're doing it right, everything becomes a surface question) but to dive deeper into questions of what lies beneath those questions, what assumptions we make when we use certain words or claim certain beliefs. We'll stop asking those questions when culture shifts enough that those questions cease making sense to ask – and if they do, it will be in large part because philosophy has helped reveal some unseen truths that led to a reorientation of society.

Look, Hacker News loves this stuff because people here are largely surface-oriented people. We love practical results, we love making things that directly affect a population's lives. LessWrong is best known for its connection to Eliezer Yudkowsky, a bright guy who's interested in putting an end to forms of death. This article's written by somebody who works for a Singularity institution. Those are what a lot of us think of when we think of philosophy – attempting to answer questions as old as mankind by devising a technical "solution" to them. Like plugging leaks and whatnot.

You have to understand that this isn't philosophy's sole purpose – in fact, this is a shallower purpose than philosophy's real one, which is to constantly search for deeper underlying truth. Philosophers should be aware of scientific developments, especially psychological ones, but only inasmuch as those developments completely invalidate a part of their studies, which isn't frequent. Philosophers aren't writing for the everyman; they're writing to continue a certain lofty ivory-tower discussion that slowly trickles down, through conceptual artists and writers and thinkers, to more practical-minded makers, down slowly towards people with more "mass-market" appeal, until what started as a very high-minded concept has shifted our way of thinking entirely.

Now, is that the only place philosophers should exist? No! The more philosophers, the more philosophy-oriented practitioners in whatever field, the better. But the solution is not for philosophy to become more scientific, it's for science to turn more philosophical. Insist that scientists and programmers and psychologists study philosophy. Teach philosophy to business majors. Remind students that inquiry lies at the heart of all understanding, all breakthroughs, and that therefore it's useful for nearly anything you'll undertake in your life. But don't critique philosophy for its approach. That sort of pure inquiry is still necessary, it's more difficult than ever – the geniuses of the 20th century are far more frustrating than the geniuses of ancient Greece and Europe – and it's under attack from many fronts, ranging from the blatantly anti-intellectual to the more subtly-so like this one.

The architect Christopher Alexander, who I greatly admire and whose work combines philosophical inquiry with practical reasoning with a fantastic mathematical rigor, makes the argument that what we typically think of as "practical" will never be enough to fully understand the nature of how the universe is organized. We can figure it out part by tiny part, but that's insufficient for thought or practice on any significant scale. He's a critic of our reliance on physics and constructing physical scientific models, not because they aren't the most cutting-edge way we know to study the universe – they are! no question about it! – but because they have their blind spots, just as every practice of inquiry throughout history has had its blind spots. For him, there is a practical intersection between math and philosophy, science and spirituality, that could be said to favor each side in a different way. But to emphasize one over any other simply because we value its "results" more would be just as disastrous as to favor the other instead. Each type of study is good at a very particular thing, and we should let it be good at that thing without insisting that it bow its head to the demands of the others.

The result of his thinking, incidentally, is that he comes out criticizing modern philosophy as well, but for much sounder and more incisive reasons than lukeprog does in this article.

29.Majority in Bern council tells Swiss city to switch to open source (europa.eu)
51 points by Tsiolkovsky on Dec 8, 2012 | 7 comments

I have a somewhat radical, sadly not novel suggestion: build what you're looking for.

I now have a semi-private "HN Reader" which has completely broken my HN habit while still feeding me stuff I might be interested in. Because I built it, I can make it do anything I want. I've started to turn it into a slightly broader search engine so that I can find the things that I'm looking for; I got sick of seeing search engines brag about the hundreds-of-thousands or millions of search results they were returning when I was trying to find something (really, what's the point of that?), so I'm building my own. I got sick of feeding some psychological trigger in my brain that made me nervously check the HN front page numerous times throughout the day, and I'd find myself clicking on items that had lots of comments and activity even if the subject was something I wasn't interested in. I guess I was thinking, "wow, lots of people over there, I should go check that out."

What did it for me was a bit of foggy nostalgia one day. I was thinking about "the good ol' days", how I -- we, all of us if we were lucky enough to be born at the right time in the right environment -- used to modify the crap of out of programs, change their interface, tweak their colors, cheat at games even when we were the only ones playing. We used to take things we didn't like and turn them into things we did like.

But nobody, or very few people, do that for the web, even though there are piles and piles of tools that make it easy and doable.

So I did it.

And it is glorious.

It's some of the most fun I've had at programming in years. Now when I'm feeling like a wet cat, I'll just go tweak my little reader-search-engine-toy, and then I feel better. Now I never feel like I'm missing out on something on HN, because my little toy is keeping an eye on it for me and saving the stuff I might care about it.

And if you're looking for a new community ... well, build that too! It's clear from numerous threads on HN and other places that people are ready for something new. Make what you want, share it if you feel like, if enough other people like it maybe they'll join in and you'll have your community.


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