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1.The richer a society or peer group, the less important visible spending becomes. (theatlantic.com)
93 points by theoneill on June 17, 2008 | 57 comments
2.The Perfect 3 Column Liquid Layout (matthewjamestaylor.com)
62 points by edw519 on June 17, 2008 | 44 comments
3.LinkedIn is Evil
60 points by smock on June 17, 2008 | 57 comments
4.Don't talk to the police (youtube.com)
55 points by jsmcgd on June 17, 2008 | 35 comments
5.Flickr Co-founders Join Mass Exodus From Yahoo (techcrunch.com)
53 points by terpua on June 17, 2008 | 12 comments
6.Vermont OKs the Creation of Virtual Corporations (gigaom.com)
53 points by KB on June 17, 2008 | 10 comments
7.When to use tables for layout (olav.dk)
49 points by olavk on June 17, 2008 | 66 comments
8.I quit my job today, oh boy (tales-of-an-it-director.blogspot.com)
46 points by ghiotion on June 17, 2008 | 19 comments
9.Code Rush, the Mozilla Documentary from 2000 (waxy.org)
36 points by naish on June 17, 2008 | 3 comments
10.Is the Universe Actually Made of Math? (discovermagazine.com)
35 points by sah on June 17, 2008 | 11 comments
11.Registration Open for Google Code Jam (code.google.com)
33 points by timr on June 17, 2008 | 9 comments

While I agree that there should be a way to disable the awesome bar, it's worth nothing that it does take some training and getting used to.

The awesome bar uses historical data from previous searches, so if your search for "news" always ends with you clicking on HN, it will put that at the top. Over time, the bar will learn your preferences and become much more useful.

I hated the bar at first, to the extent that I considered going back to FF2. For example, I used to always type "en." to find a wikipedia page, but that no longer worked well. Now I love being able to type in parts of pages, and I no longer use bookmarks since I can just search my entire history. The only thing missing is the ability to sync the history and awesome bar training to other machines, which we're working on ( http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/12/introducing-weave/ ).

Disclaimer: I work for Mozilla :)

13.Hulu is kicking Youtube's Ass (blogmaverick.com)
31 points by johns on June 17, 2008 | 38 comments

Not Hacker News.
15.Firefox 3 smart bar is just too smart
28 points by huhtenberg on June 17, 2008 | 52 comments
16.Announcing the Django Software Foundation (djangoproject.com)
28 points by arthurk on June 17, 2008 | 1 comment
17.wtop: "top" for Apache, plus powerful log grepping (code.google.com)
27 points by aristus on June 17, 2008 | 9 comments

This is one of the most valuable things about going to a good college. One day you're the top of your class at school without even trying, the next you're merely average - or maybe you (which is to say, me, in this story) need to work hard to even get to the level of average. It's a real eye-opener.

Unfortunately, this effect wears off by the time you graduate, which is when you need it the most.

19.Is it worthy? (sethgodin.typepad.com)
26 points by rizal on June 17, 2008 | 13 comments

I'm almost certain it is Jeff Dean. During my 3 month internship at Google, his name came up EVERYWHERE.

1) He is a primary author on all of Google's major infrastructure-related publications (BigTable, MapReduce, etc)

2) I've seen his internal resume. It is CRAZY.

3) Just for fun/learning I took some time and wrote an internal web app which produced pie graphs showing peoples line counts navigable by directory. I didn't run it on the entire code base because Perforce is a dog, but what I did run it on, he dominated.

4) There is an internal web app listing Chuck Norris -style Jeff Dean facts. I learned that when Jeff Dean launches his profiler, loops unroll themselves in fear.

That man is certainly Done, and Gets Things Smart. In fact, he has been 40 times more Done ever since he upgraded his keyboard to USB 2.0. Not to mention that during downtime, he alone handles all Google searches by hand.

21.Cook like an engineer (37signals.com)
24 points by naish on June 17, 2008 | 11 comments
22.Media Temple launches VPS running Leopard Server (mediatemple.net)
23 points by rob on June 17, 2008 | 18 comments
23.Firefox Download Counter - Impressive (sj.mozilla.com)
23 points by lakeeffect on June 17, 2008 | 11 comments

You're missing that you should just start contesting the charges. You made a good faith effort to downgrade. Chargebacks sound like the only way to get their attention.

I get really annoyed by the recurring CSS vs. tables debates, because they seem to be so dogmatic and often based on misunderstandings of CSS.

CSS was initially designed to support every kind of typography or layout which was achievable using presentational HTML. It was rightly recognized that if some effects (no matter how ill-advised) were only possible using presentational markup, people would not migrate to CSS. This is the reason properties like "blink" were included in CSS.

Regarding table-like layouts, the corresponding CSS property is called "display:table", and was included in the CSS 2.0 standard 10 years ago.

IE however did not and does still not support "display:table". Therefore there is no direct CSS alternative to table-layouts which works cross-browser.

A table-like layout can still with some effort be emulated by pushing other CSS features like floats to the limits. But this is actually misusing these CSS construct for a purpose they were never intended for, which makes it generally convoluted and inflexible compared to "just using tables".

But it is important to realize that the problems with the CSS approach is not that CSS is badly designed - or requires a fundamentally different mindset - but simply that the implementation in IE is incomplete.

One should also realize that tables are superior only in some specific circumstances (as described in the article). Generally CSS is better and easier to use for layout, even considering the omissions in IE.


The majority of changes in CA IT are driven by the business.

Exactly! As it should be. (As it better be.) The challenge for IT is to prove what they want is in the best interest of the business, not the IT department. We know that, we just have trouble communicating it.

Why should the business care about getting new servers or having developers waste their time rewriting already functioning code?

It's your job to answer that question. They just don't know. I had a client with slow response times the previous holiday season. Business had doubled since then. I had to paint a clear picture of what it would be like on the same infrastruture for the upcoming holiday season. x dollars spent vs. y business lost. That's a language they can understand.

Most people in corporate IT want to do a good job.

And that job is much more than development or administration. One of corporate IT's biggest job is education. We shouldn't blame others for not understanding what is clear to us. It's also our job to get them to "see the light".

(Maybe that's why I like hacking so much. I find it much easier communicating with my computer than with the bosses.)

27.Ask YC: Other than Google Adwords, what is the best form of paid advertising?
22 points by mannylee1 on June 17, 2008 | 14 comments

Tell your son that, for what it's worth, he's convinced some computer programmers (some friends of mine and I) to call that number Quadrupillion.

People he will never meet will forever refer to that number as Quadrupillion. He's already changing the world in odd, creative ways.

See? http://quadrupillion.com

Keep up the good work!


  As for goods, forget showing off. “If you want to live like a billionaire, 
  buy a $12,000 bed,” says a financial-planner friend of mine.
Ever since I read PG discuss the smallness of the actual differences between the lives of tech millionaires and Joe Average, I've wondered how much money it would take to live with principally the same standard of living as someone who can buy whatever they want. Obviously, most of the wealth of a typical billionaire is never used for any material purpose.

In the spirit of the quoted financial planner, therefore, I propose to discuss and uncover the areas where a lot of money is still able to buy more comfort and capability than a mere paycheck. If we could shrink these gaps, standard-of-living per dollar would increase, which would be very nice.

+ The quality of living quarters is basically as good as it can be, even for smallish sums. Fifty million dollars won't improve the quality of our hot water, good beds, good insulation and home entertainment by much. Rich people can still buy huge properties, but the utility of a private forest is small. Perhaps the biggest change that could happen here would be if people decided to not to skimp too much on the parts that matter.

+ Free time and attention. It is a pain in the ass to have to work for a living, usually at a somewhat painful job. Not quite sure how to tackle this problem. Robotics and artificial intelligence, maybe. It won't be solved in the forseeable future.

+ Efficient personal transportation still requires a lot of money. Think private jets: being able to travel to any location on earth as quickly and painlessly as anyone. This will probably remain a hurdle in the forseeable future, although the cost has come down a lot quite recently. It remains a matter of cheap airframes and cheap energy. Believe what you may, but being able to move ten of fifteen times faster than a car is a great boon. Get a private pilot's license, and you'll get the idea.

+ Personal attention. Money can buy all sorts of servants, therapists, coaches and mentors. I question how much of a boon many of these services actually are, but some of them would be very comfy. For example massage therapists, housemaids or chaffeurs. Also, learning new skills comes easier if you have world-class teaching talent available: the kind of teaching talent which would be bored to death and vastly underpaid teaching in public schools. Ironically, the most useful of these services (housemaids or nannies, for example, or prostitutes if we want to step into darker territory) can already be rented on the open market quite cheaply. Not to the same level of availability or quality as a billionaire could, but still vastly better than nothing.

+ Personalized health care. Even in Scandinavia, getting an appointment with the doctor and then an appointment with the required specialist is annoying enough to make you wish for something better. Health care is expensive enough as it is, but having a specialist watching you closely for a long time is much more so.

Can anyone think of any areas I missed? Perhaps some of these points could be separated into more sub-points..a list like this compiled 100 years ago would probably lump a lot of the luxuries we have today (washing machines, hot water, automobiles) into the same categories...

30.Chatting with Blaine Cook (Twitter) (akitaonrails.com)
21 points by akitaonrails on June 17, 2008 | 5 comments

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