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1.FP for the rest of us (defmacro.org)
36 points by dedalus on Feb 17, 2008 | 6 comments

I don't entirely agree.

I have seen quite a few comments that were extremely insightful, and/or interesting that got downmodded due to an unpopular opinion. The reason this is unfortunate is not only that you tend to miss these (assuming that there is a higher probability that you read or think about comments that are rated higher, which I am surely not the only one that is guilty of) but also that it tends to promote groupthink . This is especially important on a forum like this where we are here to learn and share our thoughts, ideas and experiences for a very particular niche: Starting startups.

I have noted that comments that don't promote the "build it and they will come" view tend to be voted down. Since this site is primarily populated with hackers this is entirely understandable - it is human nature to think that your part of the project is the most important. But the reason we all come here is (I presume) to learn. And the things about which we know the least are the things where we have most to learn.

It is not only a question of abuse, but also a question of opening peoples eyes to issues, problems and points of views that lie outside their expertise, but which they will probably encounter in a startup. And this includes such diverse fields as marketing, financing and sales.

I am here to learn about stuff I didn't know already, and that is often outside my field. In return for this I will offfer my opinions in the fields where I may have something to contribute.

At the end of the day this makes us all better entrepreneurs. Because as anyone who has ever done a startup will tell you - you have to get everything right. Hacking, finance, sales, PR, marketing, hiring, etc.

So I think that the up and down arrows should not express agreement, but insightfullness or truth. Not opinion. That way I will be able to judge the validity of a comment in a field that I do not know well by its points. And hopefully learn something.

3.Animated gif generator for 'loading' indicators (ajaxload.info)
29 points by gruseom on Feb 17, 2008 | 10 comments
4.The Great Zero Challenge (16systems.com)
28 points by tubby on Feb 17, 2008 | 18 comments
5.Hoaxer Haunts Fortune 500 Earnings Calls With Empty "analyst speak" (wsj.com)
22 points by joshstaiger on Feb 17, 2008 | 3 comments
6. Irony is dead, last gasp of newspaper industry edition (pmarca.com)
20 points by nickb on Feb 17, 2008 | 1 comment

The Reddit thread is kind of sad.

http://reddit.com/info/68zz4/comments/

8.Scott Adams: Connect citizens all over the world with a pen pal website to prevent new wars (dilbertblog.typepad.com)
20 points by DXL on Feb 17, 2008 | 18 comments
9.10 Tips for Moving From Programmer to Entrepreneur (userscape.com)
20 points by muriithi on Feb 17, 2008
10.Oh, hey, DHH loooovvvess the MacBook Air (37signals.com)
20 points by alaskamiller on Feb 17, 2008 | 16 comments

I also wonder how much of a contributing factor people's attempts at humor would spin the dynamics of group discussions out of control. The main reason why I went Slashdot -> Digg -> Reddit -> YCNews (and most likely YCNews -> ? within the next 18 months) was because of all the one-liners I kept reading over and over again of people attempting to be funny.

My thinking is along the lines of UserXYZ posts something humorous and gets 150 points. This causes others who feel they have a funny bone as well to pile in and attempt similarly witty remarks (which are initially harmless or contribute positively); but then you have an avalanche of users who become aspiring comedians on the message boards they frequent. I sometimes feel that these types tend to herd together and give each other a reason to continue with their behaviour by giving one another a few up-votes out of sympathy...

I would also say that the competitive nature of men in general (I'm a dude, and I won't assume anything on behalf of the women here) would contribute to certain sub-groups within this population with an increasing need to out-do one another. Thus a majority of the discussion devolves to one-liners and people trying to be funny, when all they do is come across as cynical while at the same time contributing little value.

In addition, attempts to be funny on a message board are somewhat akin to guessing on questions on your SAT exam: there is no penalty for trying. Whereas weakly setup arguments can carry a penalty of getting a barrage of refutations making yourself look (or perhaps more closer to the truth - FEEL) intellectually weaker.

12.First look: latest Google Android SDK a big improvement (arstechnica.com)
18 points by slurpme on Feb 17, 2008 | 1 comment

Research, research, research.

Seriously, there's nothing university departments like to see in a graduate entrance application than published research. It doesn't have to be related to anything anyone at the department in question is working on (although that wouldn't hurt); simply demonstrating that you are capable of working independently, discovering new things, writing a coherent paper about them, and getting it published will put you ahead of the vast majority of applicants.

Edit: Sole authorships, while not necessary, are ideal -- with co-authorships (particularly involving undergraduate students) there's always a question as whether each author made any significant contribution.

14.The Apple Product Cycle (misterbg.org)
17 points by nickb on Feb 17, 2008 | 1 comment
15.Yahoo's Entire Design Innovation Team Fired (portfolio.com)
17 points by nickb on Feb 17, 2008 | 6 comments

“If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.”

-- Henry Ford.

17.Bottled water 'is immoral' (telegraph.co.uk)
15 points by getp on Feb 17, 2008 | 44 comments
18.Don't make your college essays too good (boston.com)
15 points by pg on Feb 17, 2008 | 8 comments
19.25 Questions to Think About Before Your Next Job Interview (thesimpledollar.com)
14 points by edw519 on Feb 17, 2008 | 6 comments

I'm a little puzzled as to why this got up voted. :( Would it still be significant news if it was Everyday Joe's love letter to the MacBook Air? And if it's because it's DHH, does his love of MacBook Air significantly change a market or industry? And if all else fails, is it interesting, and did I learn anything? In my mind, it's a resounding no.

"if people don't want it, then you will fail"

Maybe the best advice you'll ever get here.

So find a customer early. Very early.

22.Rescaling the Pythagorean Theorem (betterexplained.com)
13 points by nickb on Feb 17, 2008
23.Religion and computer language use survey results (kimsal.com)
13 points by mqt on Feb 17, 2008 | 6 comments

http://philip.greenspun.com/careers/women-in-science

It's not what you asked for, but if you haven't read the likes of it before, you should. I wish I could have read it when I was your age. I wonder if I would have believed it.

If you still need advice on graduate admissions, I can tell you that pg and cperciva are on the right track. Undergrad research is particularly great, as it gives you lots of contact with an adviser who will write great recommendation letters for you.

25.Ask YC: How can we catch up to our peers at the big name universities?
13 points by rw on Feb 17, 2008 | 36 comments
26.The Stupidity of Crowds, Part I: The Wisdom of Crowds (raganwald.com)
12 points by cstejerean on Feb 17, 2008 | 1 comment

The underlying assumption -- that social connections will act as a barrier to war -- seems pretty flawed. Extensive connections didn't prevent any of the European wars between, say, 1700 and 1945. A country is more likely to have an internal war than one with any given outside nation.

Maybe, as an American, Scott associates wars with far-off, little-known lands. True in recent times for the US maybe, but certainly not for most conflicts.

28.Ask YC: IRC channel for startup people and/or YC hackers?
11 points by thorax on Feb 17, 2008 | 7 comments

I guess I'm a little bit different than many here.

I am TOTALLY guided by my customers. I wasn't always this way. I used to think that something would be so cool, so I would build it, and often, the project went nowhere. I was fortunate to have a co-founder at one time who insisted that we sell it first, then develop it. I never completely came around to his way of thinking, but now I understand where he was coming from.

My customers have never steered me wrong. They don't waste my time. They only spend energy describing things that they really need, and invariably, others need the same things.

The downside is that I never spend time working on my own pet projects. I KNOW I can build a better bridge game, fitness program, or home inventory program. I'd also love to blog. But all those things fall into the category of "No one else asked for it", so I simply don't spend time on them. Maybe some other time.


I wonder if trolls can be categorized automatically. Caveats and all, trolls are characterized by their participation in negative-karma two-person conversations and down-voting of their comments by a diverse and changing set of users. A simple learning algorithm should zap the predictable ones. Trolls are nourished by attention and early detection and removal should nip that behavior in the bud.

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