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A BYD seal is basically comparable to a model 3, except it has a more classic car aesthetic as opposed to a giant screen. What are we missing out on?


This shallow comparison could apply to any car. Are Toyota cars just Ford cars with a different logo?

Back when people used to buy Teslas, the company was notorious for how long it took to get repairs done. Even if BYD was exactly like Tesla theres many ways they could differentiate themselves if they were allowed in the US


>This shallow comparison could apply to any car. Are Toyota cars just Ford cars with a different logo?

To a first order approximation yes.

The online discussion is dominated by fanboys who don't actually know squat and people who have an expensive purchase they need to feel justified in.

The differences between two competing cars of different makes is way, way, way less than these people will make it out to be.


You’ve just agreed with the vapid take, and added no new information of any value. All we know now is that YOU think all cars are basically the same, and that you think the people who disagree (the vast majority) are all idiots. But you’ve yet to make a case.


No, I said the Internet is trash for these sorts of discussions because it's dominated by people with an agenda who blow things out of proportion.

These products are intentionally designed to be neck and neck. They're different, don't get me wrong. But they're all very close. Like a kid guessing the right answer on a math test. Things aren't the same, but the dumb fanboys who think that every Camry goes 500k on oil changes, every Tesla gets stuck in the shop forever, every American car handles like poo, etc, etc. Those idiots are wronger. You'd never be able to tell how different the cars are on those sorts of axis without fairly rigerous methods. And those people dominate the discussion.


> What are we missing out on?

You’d never know because you never had a choice in the first place


in a word, choice. also it's a much quieter car inside, despite being cheaper.


Freedom.


and what's the tesla equivalent for the BYD dolphin?


There's more than one brand of car available in America... so it would probably be the Chevy Volt, the nissan leaf, or hyundai kona


Competition. Lower prices. Better repairability.


A BYD seal is between $35k and $50k USD in various non US, non China countries that I checked Mexico, Germany, australia, Thailand.

Competition is great but it doesn't mean that the cars in America are bad. The lada was a failure of a car compared to other similar cars available elsewhere. That is not the case here.


I have one of the first runs of model 3s. It still runs perfectly. Great battery life. I'm happy with it. Nevertheless, I find it frustrating that I can't even consider buying a BYD as my next electric daily driver. Because when Tesla and BYD enter markets together Tesla is often getting creamed. That makes me curious as to why. This de-facto ban of BYD in the USA does nothing but encourage stagnation.


> That makes me curious as to why

The why part is easy - Tesla is about as outdated of a car as it gets, it is practically same car and there are only few options. I own 2014 Model S and my neighbour has 2025 Model S - it is the same car when you look at it. We also got Model 3 (from many years ago) which was then blown up a little into Model Y and we have X from a decade ago. These are ancient cars. The tech inside may have improved but the offering is basically for my grandparents now.


What is the equivalent of the ATTO 1 in the US? Does that choice even exist?




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