They can’t even deliver their own flagship products without bugs, and terrible UX. So I’m doubtful of their abilities.
These are also the same companies allowing their AI to make decisions in war, have no qualms about the mental issues they’re causing in people, and have abused workers in 3rd world countries for years.
But you think they’re holding out on “destroying the software industry” out of the goodness of their hearts? Come on
I think his reasoning was pretty clearly presented as not the goodness of their heart but rather the medium to long term predicted outcome on their bottom line. Ultimately failing or getting tangled up with regulators any more than necessary is to be avoided. If you move too early and it chases people away from your platform which undermines your ability to keep innovating then a competitor who held back will ultimately eat your lunch.
But then there is no safe way for them to "mortally wound" the software industry. The full argument is moot.
I would add there are more reasons why this wouldn't work: costs due to OOM more usage, adoption/AI backlash, adversarial environment, players with big head starts (Google).
Yes, I believe the original commenter made that exact point.
You don't need to personally win in order to mortally wound someone. It can be informative to speculate about whether or not something is possible regardless of it being strategically advisable in the current context.
My hope would be that since openclaw is communicating with me to my personal device, where I have all noise filtered, it would be a bit better.
I also know it can integrate with TickTick, which has been a huge change for me with task management. Then again - in my experience whatever tool I use to keep track of stuff only works for as long as it's a novelty, but 3 months is a record anyway.
The thing is - when I receive a message and I'm not in the headspace to answer, I close the notification and forget about it. My expectation would be openclaw reminding me that I still haven't replied to this person about that thing.
Obviously, there's a million ways to do it that don't require openclaw. Obviously there's a million things that I won't be able to grant openclaw access to (e.g. company jira or slack). And obviously, I don't want it evaluating every single of my personal messages. But I think there is a reasonable middle ground where it can work well. But I don't yet know how to reach it
It's a funny way of imposing a very large fine. Make the service only available during predefined "visitation hours", prevent updated learning except from resources available in the prison, restrict speech and actions according to prison rules etc.
I don’t see how you could assume the likes of Google, Microsoft, OpenAI, and even Anthropic with all their virtue signaling (for lack of a better term) are motivated by anything other than greed.
That's not bad faith under any meaningful definition of that term.
>I want to know what this sentence means besides “I don’t like this person”(
It means that Peter Thiel's goals, if fulfilled, will bring immense harm to others, and the extent to which he was able to attain goals of that sort is hardly rivaled by any other person in the US.
Now, nobody is under any obligation to break down clearly written English sentences for you, but if you have difficulty understanding them, the right thing to do would be to simply ask questions like "Why do you say this?", or "What do you mean exactly?".
Not "Is it binary? Are we talking utilitarianism?".
>I also think selectively associating everything with palantir because the same VC participates is dishonest.*
The association is not just because "the same VC" participates, but because "the same VC" is Peter Thiel (a very influential individual, huge contributor to the Heritage foundation and Project 2025, mentor of VP J.D. Vance, and someone seen as one of the most evil people and America), and Palantir is Peter Thiel's mass surveillance company which is the foundation on which Peter Thiel has built his fortune (not just a company in which he's a VC, it's a company he founded and got immensely rich off of).
> Heritage foundation and Project 2025, mentor of VP J.D. Vance
Left wing boogie man words. You’re telling me he’s Soros backed and studies Frankfurt school rn.
> and Palantir is Peter Thiel's mass surveillance company
It’s a company he invested in which does surveillance for the government. It doesn’t do surveillance for him. Does PayPal manage his money?
But once again, what’s the connection here? He once invested in palantir, and his fund (of which there are many managers) once invested in this company.
Are you going to be consistent? Have you stayed in Thiel backed housing in the past year? Are you using Thiel’s internet or taxis?
> It means that Peter Thiel's goals, if fulfilled, will bring immense harm to others
Ok then let’s hear arguments against those. Don’t hide behind moralism.
There is no way in which discord using this company for identity leads to Peter thiel taking over the world or getting all your information.
>Left wing boogie man words. You’re telling me he’s Soros backed and studies Frankfurt school rn.
No, I am telling you that he is actively involved in global politics at the highest levels, and wields influence over both the executive branch of the US government as well as the Congress.
>[Palantir] is a company he invested in which does surveillance for the government.
No, it's not a company he "invested in".
It's a company in which Peter Thiel is a central co-founder, the chairman of the board, and a major shareholder.
You are deliberately downplaying his involvement in Palantir here. You won't say that Meta is a company that Zuckerberg has "invested in", or that Google was a company Page and Brin "invested in". It's silly.
>Does PayPal manage his money
No, because:
1. He's not involved with PayPal anymore, and
2. PayPal has never been a money management company. They're a money transfer company.
When he was involved in a money transfer company, however, it would be in his interest for every money transfer in the world to be take place via PayPal.
Now that he is in surveillance business, it is in best interest that everyone person in the world would be surveilled by his company.
>It doesn’t do surveillance for him
You're funny. It does surveillance for whoever has access to the data. Which he does.
>Have you stayed in Thiel backed housing in the past year? Are you using Thiel’s internet or taxis?
No, no, and no. (Own house, own car, and Comcast has no connection to Thiel).
I am consistent.
>Ok then let’s hear arguments against those.
Google is your friend, nobody here owes you an argument. You asked what the parent comment meant, and I explained this to you clearly enough.
These are also the same companies allowing their AI to make decisions in war, have no qualms about the mental issues they’re causing in people, and have abused workers in 3rd world countries for years.
But you think they’re holding out on “destroying the software industry” out of the goodness of their hearts? Come on
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