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The first rule of Fight Club is that you don't talk about Fight Club.


It's your class. You can decide what a grade is worth.

I had many teachers who would give better grades to better people.

Who do you think is "better" or more deserving?


You're just stating the obvious. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.


As an individual, it's not really possible to treat everyone equally.

Do you treat people unequally if you know they are smarter? What if someone else told you they were smart? If they have a high IQ, would that matter to you? Based on which college they graduated from? If they work 16 hours a week? What about 16 hours a day?

Attractiveness is an indicator just like any other [1]. It's just a reality.

[1] https://personal.lse.ac.uk/Kanazawa/pdfs/I2011.pdf


Well, if I know they have a high IQ I might infer that they have strong mental faculties, are able to cope well with complex problems, etc. If they graduated from a good University, I might infer that they are intelligent and have a reasonable work ethic. If they work a great many hours, I may infer that they are motivated, or perhaps passionate about their job. I do not think that I can fairly infer similar things from attractiveness even if a correlation exists. There exist beautiful idiots, but essentially no idiots graduate from Cambridge or score 140 on an IQ test.


Lots of prejudices. University grads are also likely to be socially stunted, uncreative, and less empathetic.

Attractive people have the discipline and passion to put hard work into diet and exercise and makeup. They have good vision and taste for fashion.


Most attractive people I've met put no work at all into diet or exercise or makeup. I will admit that makeup can have some effect though. It can turn a 6.0 into a 6.3, but it's really only good for a few tenths of a point at best. Diet and exercise won't give you giant doll eyes or a smaller or rounder or flatter face. It won't change the shape of your head. A taste for fashion? hahahahahahahhaha ha


TL;DR: Discipline beats motivation


Everyone has their own "entry point". Maybe you overdo motivation so you focus on discipline. Maybe you overdo discipline so you focus on motivation.

Both are tools you use to apply to your own exact situation. Person A may vote for Team Motivation, because that works for them. Person B may vote for Team Discipline. That works for them.

The more accurate your self-knowledge and self-awareness, the more effective you can apply the tools (discipline, motivation, etc).


I'd say habits beat motivation


Discipline and habits are one in the same as far as I am concerned. One builds into the other.


What's the difference between 'habits' and 'discipline'?


discipline is like keeping promises you make to yourself and habits are just things you do cyclically and sometimes even without thinking but which you had to learn to do at some point (washing hands after using the toilet, brushing your teeth, etc..)


making habits requires motivation and discipline.


You won't make habits because you won't have the motivation and discipline to make those habits. It's a bit of a chicken and egg. /s


I'm sorry I upset you. I hope you get the help you need.


I'm not upset. Have you considered getting therapy for reading emotions? Let me know if you need someone to talk to, I'm happy to help.


Making wanton sarcastic comments towards someone who suggested you may need therapy for something you're struggling with after you've stalked their account for other comments reads upset to me.


This hits hard and true.


Don't make me type shift on the command line. It makes my pinky finger hurt after a long day.


How often are you installing packages?


I do it a ton. I don't write production code much anymore; it tends to be quick scripts or little one-off apps. So I probably type `npm i ...` a few times a day.

Plus things like `npm install` on pull requests, etc.


a one minute change isn't ran or tested, almost by definition.


If you could have a fully-functional dev environment with pre-installed dependencies in 10s and the package takes 48 seconds to build and test, then you could.


I'm aware of several places in my team's codebase where you can change a couple of characters and break the entire company if you didn't test the change.


Wrong


Who cares what one person out of 500,000 did one time in 2018?


I only get an hour together or a bit more if I'm lucky.

In terms of people I've hired, if they can solve and code things in real time on a white board, then they can definitely do even better with more time and research.

Everyone does better with research, trial, and error. That's not unique. What's unique is problem solving on your feet in a foreign environment. I want those people.


But why? All of my software engineering has been done on my butt in a familiar environment.


> Everyone does better with research, trial, and error.

Better? Sure. Not everyone can go from 0 to competent in a new area within a reasonable time frame.


Just curious, have you ever used AWS?


Ah, the UI trainwreck that powers half the world


The CLI and SDKs are fine.

If you’re spending a lot of time in the UI, you’re doing it wrong.


For light usage I would beg to differ

I'll never forget getting told off by the S3 PM at Reinvent because I had the nerve to ask for global sort in the S3 file browser. "Do it yourself!" he said... like, I need to find one file, sorted by date, about once every other month. You want me to learn the CLI and write a custom script for THAT?! Un-effing-believable

They have a bajillion highly-paid programmers (and enough infra to power God himself) and yet one basic feature present pretty much elsewhere in both the online and offline worlds is too much to ask


S3 is one of the last things I would manage from any GUI. I don’t use GUIs when I’m searching or listing local files either.

Besides the S3 cli commands are some of the most intuitive.

S3 is not a file system though and is a big blob of objects with tags. I think the worse thing AWS ever did was present S3 as a file system in the web console.


You probably got told off because S3 isn't a file store. Asking for such a feature displays great ignorance about what the S3 service actually is.


How would that even work on the API level efficiency given how S3 is architected? It’s clear given their optimization techniques they tell you to use that S3 is optimized for prefix style searching. That’s all they offer from the web console, the cli or the SDKs.

It would amount to retrieving everything from the S3 conceptual “index database” and doing a non optimized sort when everything is architected to search based on the key and a key prefix.

It’s far more efficient to let the client get a subset by prefix (ie “folder”) and sort/filter by other meta data client side.


The web console doesn't even do global prefix searching

Why bother giving me a file browser if I'm supposedly not supposed to be browsing files?


What do you mean by “global prefix searching” you mean across multiple buckets?

Why bother giving me a file browser if I'm supposedly not supposed to be browsing files?

Welcome to the world of leaky abstractions.


As in, search results reflect only the current visible page and not all pages. If you use a bucket as a dump for, say, daily backups, finding a specific file from 3 years ago is really time-consuming and needlessly difficult. Can't sort, can't search.... just pure frustration

I haven't checked this feature in years -- maybe they fixed it


It comes from a fundamental lack of understanding of what S3 is and how it is organized. Objects are indexed as a key value store optimized for sorting on a key and a key prefix. The fact that keys can have backslashes as a character doesn’t mean that objects are stored in “folders”. Knowing how S3 indexes data - by key only and all other metadata is tagged on the object and not in the index, should inform how to name your keys and your access patterns.

For instance sorting by date, would involve AWS querying each objects meta data and then sorting it.

If having to find objects by date is an important use case, why not create keys in the format of YYYYMMDD?

Or just use the CLI.

https://github.com/aws/aws-cli/issues/2095


Build an index of your S3 bucket with DynamoDB.


It was a dumb ask. You got told off because your question indicated you hadn't even glanced at documentation.


Giving users an interface and then expecting them not to use it seems a little... idunno.... sanctimonious?

Like if you don't want me using something, don't give it to me. Users gonna use

Seriously though that attitude is antithetical to the spirit of computer nerditry. Who do they think they are telling me what I can and cannot use?


Computer nerdery is not doing things in the GUI. It’s using the provider API for your language of choice and building your own tools.


That's one school of thought. Many of us grew up on mac and windows and appreciate good, power-user friendly GUI design


And honestly (not directed at you) that’s a problem endemic with “AWS consultants”. Too many of them are old school netops people who took one certification learned how to click around in the console and now call themselves “AWS Architects”.

They end up duplicating their on prem architecture and processes - costing companies more and not knowing how to automate and increase efficiency.

As far as “powerful GUIs”, one of the earliest game changers for the Mac that helped Apple survive during the dark ages were all of the custom workflows that publishers had created using AppleScript. It wasn’t the better GUI back in the day.


You say that, but just wait until you try using anything else.


GCP is much better in that regard.

I don't get Azure, it's UX is very meh, though at least faster than AWS.


The AWS web UI is a trainwreck by design. Amazon doesn't want to spend a penny more on it than the bare minimum, and the APIs and CLI tools (which are the intended entry points for all serious customers) do the job exceedingly well.


I have. It sucks.


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> Musk is also deluded too but his goals and intentions are genuine.

Dupe.


What?


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