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Yeah, and Lenovo had Superfish and LSE.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a huuuge Thinkpad fanboy. But the argument "it's still better than HP in any sense" just doesn't hold water in its generality.

What is "it" in this context? Lenovo makes lots of laptops, from lowest end consumer to high end business models that have very little in common build-wise, same as HP.

You can't just compare a Thinkpad with a low-end Pavilion, just as it doesnt make sense to compare an entry level Ideapad with a ZBook or EliteBook.



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