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pea protein isolate, expeller-pressed canola oil, refined coconut oil, water, yeast extract, maltodextrin, natural flavors, gum arabic, sunflower oil, salt, succinic acid, acetic acid, non-GMO modified food starch, cellulose from bamboo, methylcellulose, potato starch, beet juice extract (for color), ascorbic acid (to maintain color), annatto extract (for color), citrus fruit extract (to maintain quality), vegetable glycerin.

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Have you ever gone to a baseball game and ordered a hotdog? What's in that hotdog? My guess is most people don't ask. They're always so damn curios to know whats in a veggie burger... but they don't give a damn about what's in a hotdog.


Nathan's Hot dog: Beef, Water, contains less than 2% of Salt, Sorbitol, Sodium Lactate, Natural Flavorings, Sodium Phosphate, Hydrolyzed Corn Protein, Paprika, Sodium Diacetate, Sodium Erythorbate, Sodium Nitrite.


I certainly don't order that disgusting hotdog.

I will also be avoiding any "burger" that is sugar loaded with maltodextrin.


There's a lot of things that the cow eats during its life that don't make it onto that label but do definitely make it into your body. none of the ingredients in the list above scare me. If you still think that beef is better than a plant based alternative for you or the environment you are disillusioned. I'm not vegetarian either


You're buying into the myth that if it's made of plants, it must be better than meat.

The nutrition of Beyond Burger is pretty much on par with the nutrition of beef.

I'm not convinced that consuming "plant based alternatives" is a step in the right direction in dealing with health and environment issues especially when compared to more traditional approach like eating balanced meals using a plate model.

Eating more veggies, on the other hand, yes much better.


> Eating more veggies, on the other hand, yes much better.

In what way exactly would "eating more veggies" be much better when meat is already the only nutritionally complete[1] food?

[1] http://www.diagnosisdiet.com/food/meats/#i16


> In what way exactly would "eating more veggies" be much better when meat is already the only nutritionally complete[1] food

Easy, meat has no fiber.

Western (read: American) diet consists of over consumption of meat, refined sugar, and processed grains, and woeful lack of vegetables, and lesser extent fruits.

If the value of Beyond Meat is "better for you, better for environment", the health benefits seem dubious at best, and environmentally, I don't know if anyone has compared the impact on a per-oz of beef vs per-oz of beyond meat--though the meat industry at scale has had serious negative impact on our environment (putting it mildly)

Most of us on the western diet, would do better to increase our consumption of veggies.


> Most of us on the western diet, would do better to increase our consumption of veggies.

Yet originally you phrased it as if it were a general truth, so as to (intentionally or unintentionally) have the effect of misleading your fellow humans not born and raised or influenced by dietary patterns of your country, which is what my query was (is) all about.


Eating more veggies over eating more "plant based alternatives" is better. That is a general truth.


Vitamin C and fiber, both essentials, are not found in beef, just for starters.


Fiber is unnecessary on the carnivore diet, and is not an "essential" (to claim so is to be so not-scientifically minded[1]). As for Vitamin C see https://www.kevinstock.io/health/do-humans-need-vitamin-c/

[1] https://hackertimes.com/item?id=19728515


None of the links you posted have any scientific merit.


Fiber: https://youtu.be/xqUO4P9ADI0?t=253

Vitamin C: No one on the carnivore diet, including those who have been doing it for >20 years (even without organ meats), developed scurvy.

> None of the links you posted have any scientific merit.

Therefore this is such a waste of a sentence (aside from your pulling in scientific authority to back your increasingly senseless beliefs). Ain't life grand!


Which ingredient are you objecting to? You literally listed water and salt there. Do you think there's no water or salt in beef? Do you know what's in your mass-produced beef?

If I listed the ingredients of a homemade cake, would you also put "vs Beef" next to it?


What does a cake have to do with a burger? What point are you making?




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