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The third age of JS is going to be really exciting. People treat JS-land as something that has a first class language that can build major production tools and applications. Cloud providers support JS for nearly all aspects of their large platforms. The one place where I anecdotally see a decrease is in full-stack JS apps, but that's because the entire premise of a singular back-end app is under scrutiny by the cloud ecosystem itself. JS just never had a chance to get more established as a back-end language before that happened.


What? Node.js is as strong as ever. With Next.js it's never been easier to create a full-stack JS app. I don't see what any of this has to do with the cloud.


My comments were an observation based on what I've seen recently, and none were intended to be a value judgement on any work being done in JS-land. I just don't see a Rails-esque competitor rising from JS land anytime soon and gaining enterprise market share. Cloud has to do with it because Cloud is increasingly how applications are created. Instead of a large framework to create an application with a language (Spring for Java, Rails for Ruby, Django for Python), applications are now mishmashes of cloud functions, no sql tables, sql data stores, message queues and auth wrappers, all of those without a specific language requirement. Like I said in my original comment, it forces every language based framework to question it's (comparatively) monolithic nature. This isn't a fool proof prediction by any means, but with the rise of cloud architectures I really don't foresee any languages birthing a monolith anytime soon. I'm sure lots of folks will use Next.js or something else, and it will be good a tool, but my bet is that even more companies will increasingly utilize the cloud to create less monolithic architectures.


Ah it seems by cloud you were talking about serverless. I'd say that's still a significant minority.

I never used Rails, and it's true that Node.js doesn't have any single standard framework that everybody uses (maybe Express.js would be the closest?) But today there are definitely a hell of a lot more companies hiring for Node.js developers than Rails developers.


Rails-like for JS is coming via RedwoodJS and blitzJS. How much successful they will be? I have no clue.


AdonisJS and FeathersJS has been pretty successful.




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