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Why does everyone seem to think coronavirus death stats are like a score of how well your government is doing in response to the pandemic. If you didn't manage to stop the virus entering your country, which you can't without destroying international travel and your economy, then the end game is 60-70 percent of your population having had it. As long as people aren't dying in your country due to lack of medical care then you've not done too bad right?

We cannot avoid most people contracting this virus so why are people keeping running totals of deaths as a score card? I guess we like the idea that we could have stopped it and it gives us a sense of control and something to rage against.

The UK government is estimating that 1/1000 people have had it already. If true that means our final death toll could be in the millions right? we don't talk about that thou, we just say, lockdown should have happened a week earlier! We could have saved 2000 lives. Ok, is that 2000 lives OVERALL, like final figures or is it just 2000 lives by this point?

And the idea that it's just the UK government... 1/6 people said they'd ignore the governments advise on face coverings on public transport. Basically the UK is a load of raging, entitled children for the most part, we don't want to sacrifice anything and we want other people to fix things for us... Cos it's "their job"



I think number of people killed by a sometimes fatal illness is not an unreasonable thing to track and use as a metric of success. And many more than 1/1000 of UK citizens have had it already (where did you get that number from) - that would be 60 thousand people, whereas 152k in the UK had it at the end of April [0]. There are many benefits to pushing back the peak so that we have improved capacity, learnt better how to treat it and moved closer to an eventual vaccine.

[0]: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...


No. look at China and Korea. It can be well controlled. Business has been reopened with little new cases.


China has been going through cycles of partially reopening followed by regional lockdowns when flare-ups happen. They are nowhere near "reopened".

South Korea is one of the poster children for "manage to stop the virus entering your country". They have been aggressively responding to each and every case because they are able to identify each case that enters the country. Even then, they are still not fully "reopened".

I agree that neither has reached the level of "destroying international travel and your economy", but let's not understate the impact that their measures are having either.


We are still learning to treat severe cases so we get to a higher survival rate and we might get a vaccine at the end of the year. There are benefits to slowing the spread.




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