I notice how the last time, a lot of these climate change posts go uncommented for a long time.
Personally, I always feel gloom and doom when seeing them. We are fucked, there is no known scalable way to fix the damage if we wanted, and in fact the western world is partying straight into disaster.
Maybe I'm not alone here, so the stories get voted up but not commented on?
For what its worth, I see some hope the last few years. Some people are doing something both on a scientific and sociological level. Things are finally moving, even if it is not yet enough.
While climate change is a serious problem it’s nowhere near an extinction level event for humanity.
While not an excuse to fuck up the planet more than we have had, we can pretty much turn it into a wasteland and still survive with modern technology it won’t be fun and it would cost many lives but realistically if you are living in a western country today you are both unfortunately and fortunately going to be shielded from most of it.
> Maybe I'm not alone here, so the stories get voted up but not commented on?
IDK, maybe.
Hypothesis:
1. Although we think its important we are tired of it because its always the same story.
2. Although we ACK the problem we want to avoid news about the imminent problem that we as individuals can not really act against.
Thats a load of dung. We will no doubt be ravaged by climate change and are likely to reach 1.5 - 2 degrees warning, but we are by no means going extinct.
Focus on solutions & building resislency, not doom posting on HN
> We will no doubt be ravaged by climate change and are likely to reach 1.5 - 2 degrees warning
Yes... because we missed our chance to solve for this.
I get that humans on the whole will survive. But the "be the change you want to see in the world" type of feel goodery is complete bs. "You" are not the problem for climate change. Our politics are the problem and we seem determined to not solve that.
I will not assume what country you are from or how active you are in your local community, but here in the US among progressive or environmental groups we have seen a great deal of progress on the state & federal level on fixing the system. Lots of people are determined to solve this, sadly there is a lot of opposition too.
Don't be the change you want to see in the world, demand the change you want to see in your system. Don't rollover & accept defeat
Well yeah, humans can survive underground huddled around breeder reactors for hundreds of years. It's pretty hard to get us extinct. It's imho a lot easier to destroy modern civilization as we know it. Widespread wars for water and arable land could totally do it.
And here's what's currently happening with food production. Two different groups of 200+ scientists and academics, separately from each other, each warned of near-term global collapse:
The previous climatic changes were to “cool” periods because of vulcanology, etc. Humans at that time may not have had the technological know how to counteract the change in climate: agriculture, grain silos, hybrid plants, synthetic materials, medicines, etc., etc.
We have full blown plans to survive a nuclear winter, so I think with respect to les anciens, we have a better chance of beating it, unlike the other humanistic subspecies who didn’t make it out.
Non-extinction scenarios are still bad. People will survive but many will perish. Also, we have more technology but we may be more fragile as our 'efficiency oriented economy' show us.
Personally, I always feel gloom and doom when seeing them. We are fucked, there is no known scalable way to fix the damage if we wanted, and in fact the western world is partying straight into disaster.
Maybe I'm not alone here, so the stories get voted up but not commented on?
For what its worth, I see some hope the last few years. Some people are doing something both on a scientific and sociological level. Things are finally moving, even if it is not yet enough.