oblio is the one who brought up the Opium wars as a justification for China stealing IP. That is whataboutism. Responding to whataboutism with examples showing the original whataboutism as invalid is perfectly fine, IMO.

The thing is, that comment by GekkePrutser is not even showing my whataboutism as invalid.

Only wwtrv addressed by direct point and I can say that I only half-agree with him.

But GekkePrutser's reply is something like the OP saying the tram is going straight, me saying that it's going to the right pointing at a 15 degree angle and then GekkePrutser saying that there is no tram, it's a rocket instead and it's actually pointing down and to the left at a 30 degree angle, i.e., waaaaay off-mark.

Anyway, I'm probably breaking a chunk of HN rules continuing this discussion :-)