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I agree it’s an implementation issue. Windows always feels like annoying nagware while macOS and iOS largely get out of your way. Teams would pop up with a window on every boot to annoy you while FaceTime just sits in the background.

But the power users on this site would rather we have some kind of advanced configuration page where every single feature of windows should be opt in. While simultaneously praising the Apple “just works” system.



> While simultaneously praising the Apple “just works” system.

Because included into that "just works" system is just leaves you alone.

Maybe if the "helpful" Windows feature wouldn't nag all the time, as you put it, the power users wouldn't complain about it and look for ways to turn it off.

I've been using a Mac for more than 10 years now without an iCloud account. It asked me once whether I wanted one, when I bought the computer new, I said no, and it's left me alone ever since. And I went through I don't know how many "major" upgrades. Windows bugs me all the time.

So there's really no reason for me to complain about FaceTime, or whatever. I don't even know it's there if I don't go looking for it specifically. Whereas Windows, it's in my face, all the time. So there's a direct benefit for me to look for ways to shut that crap down. Maybe, just maybe, if Teams isn't installed it will shut up and leave me be. At least until the next update brings it back...


Edge is arguably the worst one here. Change your default from Safari on MacOS and it'll never bother you again, and anything that would have previously opened in Safari will open in the new browser.

There's practically no easy way to get rid of Edge or silence it; not only is it forced down your throat, there's active investment in trying to prevent you from switching to something else.

It doesn't excuse the constant nagging from OneDrive and Teams but, at least for now, they're not detecting that you're on Slack/Discord/Dropbox and trying to force you to switch.




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