>> Yeah, nvidia linux support is meh, but still much better than amd.

Can not confirm. I used nvidia for years when it was the only option. Then used the nouveau driver on a well supported card because it worked well and eliminated hassle. Now I'm on AMD APU and it just works out of the box. YMMV of course. We do get reports of issues with AMD on specific driver versions, but I can't reproduce.

Is it better than AMD? I have had literally no graphics issues on my 6650 XT with swaywm using the built in kernel drivers.

This week I upgraded my kernel on a 2017 workstation to 6.5.5 and when I rebooted and looked at 'dmesg' there were no less than 7 kernel faults with stack traces in my 'dmesg' from amdgpu. Just from booting up. This is a no-graphical-desktop system using a Radeon Pro W5500, which is 3.5 years old (I just had the card and needed something to plug in for it to POST.)

I have come to accept that graphics card drivers and hardware stability ultimately comes down to whether or not ghosts have decided to haunt you.

I think the problems are pro drivers and the issues with ROCm being buggy not the open source graphics drivers.

Guess I'm also doing something wrong. Never had any serious issues with either Nvidia or AMD on Linux (and only a few annoyances on RNDA2 shortly after release)...

I never had an issue with nVidia drivers on Linux in the past 5 years, but recently bought a laptop with a 4090 and AMD CPU. Now I get random freezes, often right after I login into Cinnamon but can't really tell if it's the nVidia driver for 4090, AMDGPU driver for integrated RDNA, kernel 6.2 or Cinnamon issue. The laptop just hangs and stops responding to keyboard so I can't login to console and dmesg it.

The main issue with Nvidia on Linux AIUI is that they don't release the source code for their drivers.

That might be a philosophical problem that never prevented me from training models on Linux. The half-baked half-crashing AMD solutions just lead to wasting time I can spend on ML research instead.

I literally gave away my last laptop with a discrete nVidia card because it wasted so much of my time.

Not my experience. The open source AMD drivers are much more pleasant to deal with than the closed source Nvidia ones.

In the closed source days of fglrx or whatever it's called I'd agree. Since they went open source, hard disagree. AMD graphics work in Linux about as well as Intel always has.

As someone who was tasked with trying to get nvidia working on Ubuntu, it’s a pretty terrible experience.

I have a nvidia laptop with popos. That works well.