Just a counterpoint: my dumb car has been undrivable way more often than my electric car.

They never deployed bad software updates but they sure have designed & deployed bad fuel pumps.

In some ways it’s all engineering and quality control.

Which is also why there is a huge non-OEM market for those types of parts. Can you even replace the rivian "infotainment" system?

I can go nearly anywhere and replace the fuel pump though.

That's why _I_ have a Dumbcar connected to a smartphone via FM for audio only :)

I've tried that before, but it sounded terrible. What dongle do you use?

These all sounded like crap to me as well. I've heard earlier models had much higher radio power (that was possibly illegal) and worked better. They were an archaic tech by the time I was buying the adapters off amazon.

I mean, totally, it doesn't sound great but that's all I can do, my car doesn't have bluetooth :)

Does it not have an aux port? USB C to Aux cables are pretty cheap and simple.

I know I know but then there's a cable from where the phone is to the middle console where the aux port is. But true, it'd for sure be better sound quality.

You could pull the AUX to a Bluetooth receiver stuck in the 12V port, then you can route the cable a bit neater and still have convenience.

> I know I know but then there's a cable from where the phone is to the middle console where the aux port is.

This doesn't seem unmanageable, no?

Not at all but not the best option for people that care about convenience over quality.