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> Voyager 1 is currently the farthest spacecraft from Earth

Voyager 1 is the farthest man-made object from Earth.



> farthest man-made object

that we know about and actively track


The manhole cover from Operation Plumbob?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Plumbbob


TIL about a 2,000 lb "manhole cover" (big armored plate they welded on the end of a pipe to contain (HA!) the explosion) that got launched into the atmosphere in 1957 by a nuclear explosion test, leaving ground at 150,000 mph (220,000 fps). Spoiler: it probably vaporized.


Launch velocity was estimated at 66km/s. 11 of that would be burned climbing out of Earth's gravity well leaving us with a velocity of 55 km/s relative to Earth. It will take another 42 km/s to escape the solar system, so that would be a velocity of 13 km/s at escape. Voyager 1 is traveling at 17 km/s, so would either be ahead of it or will catch it eventually.

But this doesn't account for the earth's orbit at 30 km/s. So depending on the launch orientation to orbit, the manhole cover could either still be in orbit around the sun, or have a velocity of up to 43 km/s at escape. So it's possible, if it didn't get vaporized, that is.


> So depending on the launch orientation to orbit

The Wikipedia page has the date, time, and location for the Pascal-B test:

August 27, 1957 22:35:00.0, 37.04903°N 116.0347°W

So that would have been 10:35PM local daylight savings time from southern Nevada, so 9:30PM solar time.

Turns out the potential adder from earth's rotation is a negligible ~0.37 km/s at that latitude. With earth tilted by 23.5 degrees, we have it launched 37-23.5 = 13.5 degrees away from the orbital plane. That seems smallish, so let's ignore that. Seems like the best time would have been around 6AM to add to the orbital velocity and 6PM to be about the worst, subtracting off the orbital velocity. At 9:30PM, our 55 km/s launch vector is 127.5 degrees (8.5/24*360) away from the 30 km/s orbit vector. For a combined velocity of around 43.8 km/s. Check my math.


I'm missing something from the initial calculation which is that the solar escape velocity from the current position of Voyager 1 is about 3km/s, so Voyager's velocity at escape would be 14km/s, not 17, which is very close to the 13km/s of plumbob without any earth assist. So basically anything in the direction of orbit beats voyager, and anything the other way loses.

Looking down on the north pole, the earth rotates and orbits counter clockwise. This means that anything from midnight to noon will be aligned with the orbital vector and anything noon to midnight will be offset. 930PM will be about halfway between sunset and midnight, so losing 11 km/s from orbital velocity sounds about right.


Are there other candidates outside those criteria or is this a "it's impossible to really know anything" response?


It's almost certainly the farthest one, period. Voyager utilized multiple "gravity slingshots" to accelerate to a vastly faster velocity than we could achieve with rockets alone.


What other object could be further away? I'm curious



wow!


True, there are almost certainly alien spacecraft farther from Earth than Voyager.


I hope so!


I doubt it more and more these days. So many improbable things need to line up perfectly for this to happen.

There may be alien civilizations, but they might be on worlds without the adequate resources or the right type of gravity to reach escape velocity.

And there simply hasn’t been enough time in the universe for many space faring civilizations to have arisen yet. We might be really early.


So long as it isn't impossible, the improbable becomes inevitable at scales as vast as the universe.


Not really. Very large improbabilities require a lot more time than what the universe has been around for.


From our limited sampling, it happens with some measurable frequency.

Going from zero to one of something tends to be a lot less likely than going from one to two or more.


Yea but we don’t know how many failed attempts there were that got stuck at zero. We only know our one existence. Could be trillions of dead universes before ours.


Yes really. These improbabilities are guesswork, and their size is unknown. We know a spacefaring civilization has happened once, so the probability is far greater than you allow, and time obviously sufficient.


I think the only real quibble I’d have here is:

It is clearly possible to have a space-faring civilization, we’ve seen one. But the density could be extremely low. Fine, in infinite space we’ll get an infinite number of spacefaring civilizations whatever the odds. They exist, we just might never interact if the density is low enough.

But, I’m not sure, maybe it is a philosophical question or maybe it is a physics one (I only had an engineering education so at the extremes these get hard to distinguish sometimes). Does the universe outside of our light cone “exist” in some sense? If not, then I guess the universe is not quite so big.

Further, you might suppose that the planet needs to be in some reasonable band, in terms of power being absorbed from the star, to be amenable to life. And that, in order to hit spaceflight, you’ll need to have accumulated a certain amount of energy (for rocket fuel). This could bound the beginning of space-flight-viable planets to those which have already had a good amount of life for a couple hundred million years.

So this would seem, to me at least, to limit our universe of possible planets to those that are more than a couple hundred million years old, at least, in our frame of reference, right? (and this is assuming most of the Precambrian was a waste of time that could be skipped through lucky evolution).


I wonder if we will ever pass Voyager 1. Might be the farthest for a long time.


I asked myself this same question when New Horizon sent pictures of Pluto back. I was surprised to learn that NH will never overtake Voyager because of the number of gravity assists Voyager 1 achieved. The planners had to race to achieve the 4 gravity assists in the 70's, the next time the 4 giants line up in such a way isn't until 2145. Perhaps some form of ion engine, one day, will help us overtake Voyager. Or more sci-fi fusion/nuclear rockets. Who knows, but it's interesting to ponder.

https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/voyager-1-solar-syst...


Hopefully in my lifetime we can do something like these lightsails:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQFqDKRAROI&t=883s

...which do a swing by the sun to get up to 22 AU/year.


I always like it in space simulation games when you can visit them: https://elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/Voyager_1


I remember when the launching of voyager. I would rather be getting bad data than no data.




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