Platforming them also doesn't seem to be bringing about any change though. Your argument assumes this fantasy that they will have a dialogue. That's just not what happened, they just make their own echo chambers inside the platforms. These platforms are literally optimized for community building. Banning and deplatforming achieves mental peace for people who just want to go to twitch and not be bombarded by literal nazis.
Where do you fall on Israel vs Gaza? Does your platform let you speak freely? Is there a chilling effect due to fear of getting banned? I can say the words Tavistock here and guarantee that I will get downvoted just for mentioning it.
Shoving it off into a dark corner doesn't make it go away. IT makes people ignorant to the fact that it's going on.
I’m ok with shoving some stuff in a dark corner if it makes it harder to accidentally stumble on it when using a platform for generally more wholesome purposes.
The problem with the “where do you draw the line” type arguments is that they suggest because it’s hard to agree on where a line should be drawn, that one shouldn’t be drawn at all. But reality is different. It’s better have some rules and continually review their approaches and boundaries than allow a free-for-all from the worst people and normalising their behaviours because you can’t be bothered to answer those difficult questions.
I have no idea where all this is coming from, the original post talked about literal nazis. Allowing for exaggeration I can extend that to overt racists and those kind of bad people. Don't move the goal post now by muddying that with more nuanced topics (although, this one shouldn't be, it's clearly a colonizer situation, but again allowing for exaggeration and examples). You have to draw the line somewhere.
1984 is an entire book talking about how terrible fascism was.
One of 1984's core tenants is that control of speech, erasure of history, revision of the present, removal of WORDS to mold what people think. It's a fundamental treatise about why fascism controlled people, the narrative, and how it changes everything. (It talks about bureaucracy as well but that's another topic).
Using 1984 to defend fascism, against the fascist tactics highlighted in 1984 being rolled out in the world we live in is a pretty nuanced take. But you have to get past the word nazi first.
Bro nobody is talking about 1984 type system but you. People having standards about who they talk to is not fascism. Companies not doing business with bad actors is also not fascism. I would gladly defend the right of someone to do a Nazi parody but only if there's little risk of them turning out to be actual nazis.
