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> You cannot be serious. The EU has put up tariffs on EVs because the EU car industry who had 10 years to get ready decided that it was better to keep building diesel engines than invest in EVs.

Voters in Europe are not screaming for cheaper Chinese EVs-- they want economies improved, mostly, and anything weakening the local (automotive) industry (even electrification itself) is regarded very skeptically (especially in countries like Germany, France, Italy).

> You forgot the Irak war and Afghanistan and the fake WMDs.

I'm not saying that those were justified (especially not in hindsight), but the Americans had gotten hit very hard before and had a somewhat credible justification at the start.

Russia, on the other hand, never experienced a Spetember 11-- they only shot down those civilian airliners themselves (MH17).



> Russia, on the other hand, never experienced a Spetember 11

Maybe not on that scale but they had a few major terror attacks of their own: Budyonnovsk hospital hostage crisis, the 1999 apartment bombings, the Moscow theater hostage crisis, the Beslan school siege, and most recently the Crocus City Hall attack.


Yeah sure, but those had absolutely nothing to do with the Ukraine.

And honestly, Russians have their current and past governments much more to blame for this, considering all the shit they did in Chechnya (starting with mass deportations in '44, followed by 2 wars and a bunch of warcrimes).

Not saying that the US was blameless with all the middle east messups, but IMO Russia collected a lot more karma debt in Chechnya over the last century by comparison...


> I'm not saying that those were justified (especially not in hindsight), but the Americans had gotten hit very hard before and had a somewhat credible justification at the start.

France had almost 200 people killed in 2015 at the Bataclan. They did not invade another country because of this.

This is a very weak argument.




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