your bank requires drm? what.

Not drm per-se

I was commenting this (from above):

> and I predict that in the near future it will be very difficult to use many apps (or even websites) while running on custom non-commercial builds of your operating system because "your" hardware will collude with the service provider to deny you access.

Many banking apps (and other payment apps) won't work on phones with custom android builds, nor on phones with unlocked bootloaders, same for rooted phones.

But yeah, in turn, unless you have a "dedicated banking phone", this will mean that people will stay with the official OS's with all the DRM features included.

(or well.. as we in the balkans do, pirate stuff)

Do you think your bank is obligated to run its software on your arbitrary device? Why? If, for its own risk tolerance of fraud, it needs to ensure nothing has messed with its app, shouldn't they have the right to refuse? You've not paid anything for the app, it's simply a venue for a service they offer.

I would not like to live in a world where I need to pay extra to ensure some folks want "freedom". Fraud indirectly is a tax on all of us. There should obviously be limits on what we put up with, but I'm not sold this limitation is where the line should be drawn

Well, the same as drm then... on a rooted device, you can run a screen recording app, that's why netflix might soon run only on attested devices. Tinder? What if you're faking your location, attested device only. etc.

Want freedom, a rooted device, a device not made by samsung or apple? Well, fsck you and your freedoms, right? It's not like a phone is a general purpose computing device.

Soon the same will happen to PCs... why should your bank run on linux, what if you've messed with the cookies? Microsoft windows OS, attested system, and you'll be banking in edge only. Just because some people like you support this.

There are countries where you cannot own a gun legally. Many in those countries see the benefits of giving up the "freedom" to own a gun for the greater good.

I understand your point, and also worry about a world I cannot use my Linux desktop to do things I can on my phone. I'm optimistic Linux distros will manage to solve these problems if they arise. Tighter integration with hardware vrnfi

your whole take is just ignorant.

yes i expect the bank to have to run on any client as the client should not be trusted.