Oh please, stop these ridiculous appeals to novelty and hyperboles of things I
haven't said.
You keep spouting "modern" without any sense whatsoever. The fact that vi(m) and
Emacs are both veteran pieces of software does not somehow reduce their
usability. They are still the most usable and powerful editors on this planet.
Yes, they have a (steeper) learning curve. No, that isn't a bad thing. Please
stop conflating usability with accessibility[1].
>The point in most pro-vim/emacs arguments it to make you take the most
difficult route to achieving text manipulation tasks.
You don't make any sense at all. If anything, vi is the easiest route to
achieving text manipulation tasks. The better you know it, the easier, the
faster and the more efficient it becomes.
>Going by that argument you don't need any kind of an modern GUI ever.
By what argument? Your own confused interpretation of what I haven't said?
I said that there isn't even such a thing as a "modern GUI". It's an idiotic
term that has no defined or agreed-upon meaning, and is thrown around as a
pseudo-argument in discussions like this. It has no merit and can be dismissed
as such.
[1]: I've made this point countless times in the past, in all sorts of different
discussions about software. People keep on blabbering about how $software (like
git, vi or just GNU/Linux in general) is unusable when they really just mean
it's a bit more challenging to learn than, say, nano or gedit, completely
ignoring the long term benefits.
You keep spouting "modern" without any sense whatsoever. The fact that vi(m) and Emacs are both veteran pieces of software does not somehow reduce their usability. They are still the most usable and powerful editors on this planet. Yes, they have a (steeper) learning curve. No, that isn't a bad thing. Please stop conflating usability with accessibility[1].
>The point in most pro-vim/emacs arguments it to make you take the most difficult route to achieving text manipulation tasks.
You don't make any sense at all. If anything, vi is the easiest route to achieving text manipulation tasks. The better you know it, the easier, the faster and the more efficient it becomes.
>Going by that argument you don't need any kind of an modern GUI ever.
By what argument? Your own confused interpretation of what I haven't said?
I said that there isn't even such a thing as a "modern GUI". It's an idiotic term that has no defined or agreed-upon meaning, and is thrown around as a pseudo-argument in discussions like this. It has no merit and can be dismissed as such.
[1]: I've made this point countless times in the past, in all sorts of different discussions about software. People keep on blabbering about how $software (like git, vi or just GNU/Linux in general) is unusable when they really just mean it's a bit more challenging to learn than, say, nano or gedit, completely ignoring the long term benefits.