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I’m no doctor but I know PSA test would have identified its existence long before this stated progression. It’s a blood test that would be routine for any male his age, he’s probably had them at least annually for decades of his life at this point

The implied timelines don’t match.



Not routine at age 82: "most organizations recommend stopping the screening around age 70" https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/psa-test/in-dept...


I sincerely hope our presidents' care isn't limited common practice.


I don't think being a current or former president materially changes the rationale for that recommendation.


Sure it does. The death or major illness of a sitting president is impactful in a way that the death of an average retiree is not. The cost of performing the test is inconvenience (admittedly of a man whose time is very valuable), but the cost of missing a major health problem has geopolitical consequences. The health recommendations are definitely going to shift toward "better safe than sorry."


> Sure it does. The death or major illness of a sitting president is impactful in a way that the death of an average retiree is not.

The recommendation is not based around the public impact of the patient's death, but around the expected utility of the test in improving the length and/or quality of the patient's life, which is fairly low in the best of times for PSA screening.


A president and their team is absolutely going to take a "better safe than sorry" approach. The doctor is not the only person who decides what treatment should be, the patient does too.


PSA is not fool proof test, and is susceptible to false positives. A substantial fraction of men, in the 40+% range have prostate cancer at death. The treatments for it can be painful and have long recoveries, so there's not obvious solutions.


I think it does. For one, there are major 3rd party consequences of illness that are unparalleled.

Second, many recommendations are based on resource limitations that simply don't exist for a POTUS.

Last, and similarly, standard of care is based on standard doctors, treatment, and hospitals. They go out the window when these aren't true.


> Second, many recommendations are based on resource limitations that simply don't exist for a POTUS.

AFAIK, the PSA one isn't based on resource limitations, though.

It's based on the specificity being low enough and the risks, especially with advancing age, of the follow up tests being high enough that at a certain point the test is perceived as having zero-to-negative value in terms of QALY for the patient.


Indeed: "Mr. Biden’s last-known prostate-specific antigen test, the most common way to screen for prostate cancer, was in 2014. Mr. Biden would have been 71 or 72 years old at the time." https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/20/us/politics/biden-prostat...


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The guideline to stop screening at 70 has nothing to do with financial cost. It’s that detecting it at that point is useless because you’ll generally be dead of other causes by the time it catches you.

Compounding the issue, the rate of false positives rises as you get older which then 1) freaks people out and 2) encourages them to get more invasive tests done which are themselves increasingly hazardous (and less valuable) with each passing day.

There are a lot of good reasons not to speculate about others' health decisions on the Internet, and avoiding a spotlight on your own basic ignorance is one of 'em!


Yes, because most men won't live to be 82, so on average it's not worth it. But presidents are not "most men." They're also attended by personal physicians who can keep them from freaking out when informed accurately of their health.

I would appreciate less condescension about my supposed ignorance, but I guess that's unrealistic.


Doctors don't adjust how long they're trying to keep you alive based on your job title.

Doctors also don't believe that rich people are somehow immune to the psychological trauma of "you might have cancer → nvm all good → you might have cancer → nvm all good → you might have cancer → nvm all good."


> Doctors don't adjust how long they're trying to keep you alive based on your job title.

Of course they do


Hmm, must’ve just slipped past me when reviewing the medical guidelines that inform almost all of a doctor’s decision-making.


Doctors are, unfortunately so far, people. And they're also gatekeepers to care.

It's naive to think they don't discriminate on all sorts of factors outside the guidelines, for instance when treating fellow doctors. Not that they'll admit to it. I know doctors who won't even admit to it to themselves. But they still do it: they'll just call it by a different name or make up an outside reason.


Uh huh… and how exactly does this demonstrate that Biden would’ve gotten PSA screening after 70 against the guidelines?


That might be true in a triage/ER context.

Doesn't track when we are talking about a slow, years long chronic illness and someone who over the last 4 years has had personalized healthcare to the tune of 8 figures.


As mentioned, it is not access to healthcare that determines PSA screening guidelines.


PSA is only one of several diagnostics that would have caught it at the level of care POTUS gets.


It would be cool if you would stop purposefully taking the stupidest possible interpretations of my posts.


Okay, then you tell me how having a personal physician means you certainly are getting PSA checked beyond 70 y/o.

Lay out the logic step by step.


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