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> Iranian media now report 40 killed and 48 students injured following the strike on a girls’ elementary school in Minab, as rescue and recovery efforts continue.

Congrats America!



As an Iranian-American that's familiar with the regime, I would take that with a grain of salt. I saw this being reported from the Iranian regime themselves and they know how to manipulate optics and media really well. It's possible, but needs verification. I would also not put it past Iran to build their military infrastructure around schools intentionally (similar to Hamas with hospitals) in the hopes that it has this exact effect. Of course that does nothing to take away from the tragedy of innocent people dying and I'm not trying to negate that in any way, just something to point out.


100%. In another comment [1] I drew a parallel with the Al-Ahli hospital incident in Gaza. Once you understand basic information warfare tactics, they're easy to spot. Why newsrooms still fall for it so easily is the real mystery...

I bet this story is a fabrication as well.

[1] https://hackertimes.com/item?id=47199047


Why are you religiously defending Israel?

And you already bet this story is a fabrication as well.

This is exactly who media takes advantage of not the one who waits for investigation and acts rationally.

If going by your recent comments, I can say I bet you're just an Israeli propagandist. Would you be happy with that assesment?


Iran tends to lie about these things while Israel usually says the truth, at least after running an investigation. It's pretty simple: one is a dictatorship without free media, and the other one isn't. It's easy to lie when you can tell the newspapers what to write, and it's much harder when they're doing their job. You want an example? Khamenei. Iran says he's safe and wasn't hurt. Israel says he's dead. Let's see.


> while Israel usually says the truth, at least after running an investigation

You can't be serious about that statement. At best it reflects overwhelming naivete about how governments (let alone those engaged in war) work. At worst, its a deliberate attempt at misinformation.


haha


You being Iranian-american bares no weight on your opinion


The idea is that criticism of Iran from an Iranian-American would have more merit. However, we have no way to confirm the validity of this claim. It could very well be someone pretending to be an Iranian-American.


In my experience, I find people who are "former ABC-ian" to actually be very heavily biased, if not outright lying about ABC. Mentally, I'd say it's worth less weight than someone with no information.

They left because they were unhappy with things. The former British folks are enraged about human rights abuses and societal collapse in Britain. The ex-Christians will rarely praise the Bible.

Not that there's zero weight, it's still a perspective to consider. But it has to be fact checked thoroughly.


why should it not?


why?


You don't think someone from a country might know a bit more about it than the average person on HN?


Easy, it was Israel that probably did it and it's been shown time and time again that they can do this without political fallout under the guise that the target was a hiding spot for the military assets of Iran (or Hamas in the case of Palestine bombing).


> Easy, it was Israel that probably did it and it's been shown time and time again that they can do this without political fallout under the guise that the target was a hiding spot for the military assets of Iran (or Hamas in the case of Palestine bombing).

Are you claiming that Iran (or Hamas) site their military bases away from schools (or hospitals)?


No he's saying that israel intentionally bomb schools and hospitals


> No he's saying that israel intentionally bomb schools and hospitals

Maybe they do, but this is also fairly common and cannot be ruled out at this early stage: https://nitter.net/pic/orig/media%2FHCQpcrMbkAAz6Vw.jpg

The problem you have when you try to shield your armed forces with civilians is that you then place those civilians in danger.

What do you expect will happen when an armed force uses civilians as shields? It's not a rhetorical question, I really want to know what you expect an attacking force to do. Stop attacking?


It's been shown time and time again that the world will eat up any propaganda against Israel without waiting to hear any facts at all.


Those videos of Israeli soldiers raping prisoners, beating prisoners, spitting on or beating people just walking in the streets.

Yeah, so much propaganda. We can see it with our own eyes.


It's been shown time and time again that some people will eat up Israeli propaganda and completely ignore facts and abject reality.


Update: AP news reports that deaths at girls school has now risen to 148.

https://apnews.com/live/us-israel-strikes-iran-khamenei-03-0...


"Iranian prosecutor says..." deserves minimal trust.

That said, if the US/Israel didn't do it, we'd have heard a denial by now. Perhaps the target was a nearby military site. Placing military sites next to schools sounds like a tactic from the Hamas Resistance handbook.


There are plenty of schools on US bases in and outside of America. I live by one right now.

I was curious if America's largest base, Fort Bragg, has any elementary schools in it. I found at least 1.

https://poolees.dodea.edu/school-about-us


Fair point, I take back my last remark about placement of schools near bases. God I wish the Iranian regime would just surrender, it would be so much better for everyone. Look at Hamas, they refused to surrender and the result was colossal death and misery.


Iran regime launched a missile during their last ditch attack on every country in the middle east and it fell on a school.


Why would you believe this statement any more than a statement from Putin, Likud, Trump... or anyone like that? The Iranian regime recently admitted to shooting thousands of their own people who were protesting.

Without some confirmation, everything is propaganda, isn't it? Jeez... there is no greater force that that to have one's bias confirmed, is there. That is going to destroy us.


congrats on parroting the propaganda of the Iranian regime


> Iranian media


And the tens of thousands of Iranians murdered for protesting? Did you care about them?


Can you explain how this relates to that?

Some people are getting killed so more people should be killed?


10s of thousands of women and children were killed by the regime… so they have no right to complain that these pretend attacks have killed children


> these pretend attacks

Feel free to disagree with the death tolls and the demographics of the victims, but the bombings are very much real...


Did Israelis kill them? No. So, why would anyone care?

Did you see non-stop coverage about it from NYT, WaPo or others? No.


It's baffling to see the lengths people will go to justify israeli crimes.


It's baffling to see the lengths people will go to ignore crimes in general unless they are can be somewhat tied to Israel.


That's not the case at all. Some of us don't take our news from biased US sources.


> That's not the case at all.

Would you consider blowing up a bus with civilians a crime?


Would you consider occupying someone else's land and killing and massacring and raping and displacing its native population a crime?


Both of those are crimes. It's worth noting that the Israeli crimes tend to be less criticized by western governments which tends to make some people angrier about it.


UPDATE: Reports now say that over 80 school children between the age of 7 and 12 were killed in Minab.

How is the Epstein Regime going to survive this politically? How is the Senate (Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz, etc.) going to survive this politically?



No need to worry. They have extensively stress-tested the American public over the past few years and the conclusion is clear: Americans are never going to revolt no matter what you do to them.


I think you forgot /s to your last two points


He could drop a bomb on a school in Ohio, and still enjoy 40% support. There is no red line for these people.


You are mistaken. Just don't assume that diminishing support for Trump will result in increased support for the democratic party. I find both equally disgusting.


Equally? Sigh.

All the people who huffed about Kamala and Trump being sides of the same coin have brought us to this stage. You think Kamala's admin would be anywhere as venal, corrupt, blatantly unlawful as this?


Yes, and absolutely, yes. I am old enough to realize that these are the sides of the same coin. They have different but overlapping sets of masters, but the end result is always the same. I don't see the point of losing time at the polls. Marx was right.


The Iranian Government lies as much as Trump does.


You really believe that news that comes from Iran media at this point?




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