Hi 30 minute old account. Whats crazy is that you think you just made some sort of point.

Like what I was driving at here was that Smartphones are not the only possible platform you would need to withhold from kids to get the desired outcome.

And its also silly to think that these controls aren't serving the interests of the very degenerates you claim to hate. Why are you in complete thrall to them, making burner accounts to stick up for them, I do not know.

I agree with @protocolture (Robotech... nice). I will be handing GrapheneOS phones, Qubes OS laptops, and Mullvad subscriptions to my [future] kids and teaching them how the world really works and how to stay safe. I will teach them how to torrent, and how to sysadmin like it was reading and writing. I will teach them to treat the internet like a real life spy vs spy battlezone, basically always falsify and poison as much as possible, the vital information about one's self. I will teach them to hate both Apple and Microsoft, and the reasons why they should hate them.

What I won't do is lock them down, like so much of this comment section is in support of doing. I am disgusted by the death of the cyberpunk ethos from the turn of the millennium.

Yeah pretty much where I am going to have to go with my kid.

I had a job interview at a school ages ago, and while I didnt expect to take it I still asked. How much of your security risk comes from inside the student population, and how much is external. And they said, 100% external. The students hadnt so much as knocked on a port in 10 years. And that horrified me. School as I see it, is a safe place to learn opsec, and you learn opsec by failing. Either that or these kids have the network completely pwned but I didnt get that feeling.

My kiddo will have a desktop soonishly and very much is getting an education in good opsec.