I didn't say it was murder, I made the concession about self-defense, didn't I?

A nice concession from you might be to admit that kids on your side maybe shouldn't attend protests with intention to do harm.

That's basically where right and left don't see eye to eye on this.

Yeah I agree people should not go to protests with the objective to harm or destroy.

I dont think that is really the major party dividing line tho. I dont think most of the right thinks they went there with intention to harm, but to "defend".

I also think many people on the "left" take issue with someone putting themselved in a situation that could require lethal self defense, particularly over property.

If someone on the left killed right wing protestors that person would not be treated like a celebrity. The reason why not is simply that violence isn't celebrated on the left like it is on the right.

With the exception of Luigi and I think that's more generational than left vs right.

In the interest of shedding light, not fire - I dont think the right view the deceased as protesters. They view them as attempted murderers and people destorying their community. I think this is fundamental and explains a lot.

I think if you reversed the roles, you would get much the same reaction.

Lets say you get some militia marching in the street, lighting cars on fire, vandalizing schools and businesses. Then one of the marchers chases down a counter protesters saying "im going to kill you", corners them, but gets blasted.

I think there would be a lot of rallying around the shooter if people wanted to try them for murder. People would say they were just taking out the trash and the deceased FAFO'ed.