Oh yeah, back in the GPT3.5 days I think, that's probably it. Thanks for sharing your hunch :)

Weird, I'm using 5.6 Sol through Chinese resellers and it reverse engineers stuff just fine

Because they have gone through identify verification, they are more likely to have done that to increase reputation score.

That's hilarious that Anthropic and OpenAI can't even secure their products from Chinese resellers, how are they supposed to secure their models from being distilled?

They can't, that's the entire market for resellers all the data collected is used for distillation

Same way you prevent them from crawling your public website?

Do you have any suggestions for resellers? My Gmail username is the same as my HN username if you're not comfortable posting that here.

Thanks.

Here's a big list: https://vectoral.com/blog/token-relay-market

Thank you

I used Byesu and now use a6api. Byesu is a bit more expensive, but a6api is a marketplace so has a higher risk of fake models.

How so? The code and reasoning patterns certainly match, so does the intelligence level. I probably wouldn't know if they're secretly serving Luna instead of Sol, but it's definitely an OpenAI model.

I think I’m missing something, what do you mean Chinese resellers? As I understand it, it’s difficult to even access OpenAI in China, how could they be reselling it? Do you mean something like openrouter but a Chinese version or something?

They usually resell codex subscriptions as api so it's cheaper than the official api

Proxies/vpns to enter/exit comms through non-banned countries.