Probably, but does not mean a state organized it. So if there was free transportation just for this day just for that route -> strong indicator of Morocco involved.
So, I a remain curious to the base of the claim, but so far it rather seems rumors.
The upthread HN claim was that this "was an attack".
The Xitter claim was that:
Moroccan traffic police keeps directing thousands of illegal migrants toward the Spanish border fence in Ceuta.
This is a state-orchestrated invasion of Spain.
The video shows a small number of people on a small number of truck beds calmly going about a roundabout.
No visible attack, no proof that the people visible are "thousands of illegal migrants" nor of where they are or where they are headed.
Are you claiming this video shows free trains for immigrants?
It shows people on cars and police waiving them on like all the other traffic. So possible they especially were set up for the immigrants, but no idea how one can conclude that from this short clip.
Well, this is certainly the case. Many migrants said that they were encouraged and directed by Moroccan police that informed people in advance, removed border controls and on the crossing site, encouraged people to cross.
It's an exaggeration to call this an attack - those people were not military, we not legally obliged, conscripted, or paid to do it - the are willing migrants, they actually want to immigrate and live in Spain. What changed is that they were given the opportunity, "they did it because they could".
I don't know about Ceuta, but it is true Belarus has been "importing" people and forcing them to storm the Polish border, in huge numbers.
It is also true that many times the Polish state has behaved inhumanely towards these people. But for sure their presence on the forester Polish-Belarussian border was an engineered hybrid warfare act, not some act of collective desperation, and it continues to this day.
The poor people taking part are, I understand, often recruited in poor places and told they will be smuggled into Europe. Then they arrive in Belarus and get sandwiched between Belarusian police (KGB?) and the border, told the only way out of, effectively, Belarusian captivity, is into Poland, through the barbed wire and border patrol/army.
48000 out of 50000 in Ceuta's breach won't be migrating actually, since they've already returned voluntarily. Most either were agitators or have realised they weren't any better off on the other side.
Most have already migrated actually, unless you believe they were born in Morocco. And their intention was obviously to settle in Europe through Spain.
Obviously? Morocco is a well-known hub for migrants from all over Africa who try to reach Europe, but these ones are "quite obviously" Moroccan? What makes it this obvious then?
Is obvious because there is no way 48000 people on flip-flops and football t-shirts, without neither documents, nor money, would be allowed to happily step back into Morocco unless they are citizens.
Also because real sub saharan immigrants would fight tooth and nails before to voluntarily returning to Morocco. A place where many report been abused for months and years, and where they are trapped unless they pay the local mafias a small fortune to quit the place.
Flash mob is a perfect way to describe this, but if Morocco government was behind that, it backfired spectacularly with zero real gains to show for the at least 67 Moroccan citizens that died at the sea just to have a laugh at Spain.
Spain is seen as the victim and after past negative experiences has endured this with relative grace and dignity. Haters will hate, trumpers will trump, and nobody cares. Europe can say what they want, but the crisis has mostly solved itself in 24 hours, and the video of the Spanish agents running to comfort a lost little child crying alone, has made the entire country proud of their policemen.
Morocco instead is seen as the invader, has lost international trust and now it needs to bury many of their citizens including children. The families of the children drown probably think now that this has been a really stupid idea.
If you watch the videos or interviews with the “migrants”, these are clearly just agitators and looters trying to have a good time by harassing the Spanish. None of them expect to suddenly become Spanish citizens. It’s like flash mobs or organized looting we see in the US organized by social media.
By your definition a migrant needs to cross borders and successfully settle on the other site. What do you call the people being forced back or stuck in holding facilities and internation camps then?
I'm talking exclusively about this particular breach. 48000 out of 50000 have returned voluntarily. I don't think that counts as trying, so talking about success is a category error. This was a (deadly) flash mob.
I assumed their qualifier was being applied to this case as well. However I don't think there's any ambiguity about who are we talking about in this specific thread of comments.
They were there for the fun of looting and harassing the Spanish at the direction of their government, not to actually settle. I might call them agitators, raiders or invaders, not migrants.
What conspiracy theory is this that you’re pushing that these were not Moroccans? You think there’s some other large group of people who live in Morocco and were just ready to run into Ceuta within a day of this Spanish ruling?
Geographically, they're not. Ceuta occupies a tiny corner of Africa. None of these people reached peninsular Spain and they are not migrants fleeing into Europe to live there.
Crossing a breakwater and going home 30 minutes later does not make them legal EU immigrants. It was an overblown news story that only have been believed by someone who has never been to the region, like so much news today!
Where did you hear that? Ceuta is entirely surrounded by Morocco and all of the people who moved into Spanish territory in Africa for 30 minutes did so by coming from Morocco. The confusion surrounding the geography there is... confusing!
Until it's proven they want to actually move there, they cannot be called migrants. In fact, 90% of them have gone back to Morocco, so not much permanence to speak of
It seems that dropping its own boarder enforcement, is a political lever that the Moroccan government sometimes uses in disputes with Spain. Is that what happened here? And these images of a flood of brown migrants, are useful to a lot of consent manufacturing projects, so are getting amplified?
Yes, a concerted campaign on TikTok and Instagram (hint hint) targeted these people with lies about the consequences of a supreme court ruling on immigration. This happened soon after Spain proposed an EU measure to break association with Israel.
Whoever was the main one to have coordinated this should be punished. In case of Finland it was Russia to have coordinated this. In case of Spain, the most logical actor was Morocco. There should be sanctions that are rigidly enforced here. It should also be treated as a military attack against the EU by Morocco, aside from sanctions.
