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For example, swindling their business partners (such as Figma). Filing an unnecessary trademark lawsuit against a customer whose brand predates Anthropic.

Completely unrelated to AI safety.

they literally sell the removal of guardrails in exchange for minimum spend commitments

It seems blindingly obvious to me that you'd want to let trusted organizations use the models defensively, which means without guardrails, and that you'd probably gate that behind some kind of enterprise sales process, for multiple reasons.

Honestly, it just seems like you have an axe to grind and aren't really particularly knowledgeable (or curious) about AI safety.



1. This is not “unrelated to AI safety”. The things they seek in the name of AI safety always seem to be aligned with the path that will eliminate competition and give them maximum economic power. Thus, to disentangle what is sincere and what is ulterior, we have to look at the leadership’s character holistically. A ruthlessly unethical and cutthroat corporation that is also seeking unprecedented power doesn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt when it claims to be doing this for altruistic reasons.

2. You misstated what I wrote. My gripe is not that they have an enterprise sales process. It’s that in negotiations, they say “we’ll drop the safeguards if you agree to spend more”. I haven’t heard of any groundbreaking AI safety research concluding that spending more with Anthropic makes the models safer, but maybe Dario has a new blog post coming.

3. Check your tone.


You're just talking in circles. So their trademark lawsuit is about AI safety because of the leadership's holistic character?

Again, you just have an axe to grind, and you've picked a poor area in which to grind it.


Let me try putting this in simpler terms:

When someone says they are doing something to help you, but it really helps them, you have to choose if you trust what they say. One way to know if you can trust them is to watch how they behave.

(By the way, I have been very transparent on HN that I have an axe to grind, literally referring to it as “an axe to grind”. My axe is that I think the frontier labs are a symptom of a cancer on our society, and I personally wish to see them and their tactics fail.)


Yes, that’s obvious, and it’s leading you to some really specious logic.

Your simpler version still sidesteps the point that a trademark dispute has nothing to do with AI safety. Other than that you disagree with it, therefore they’re dishonest scammers, therefore AI safety is all bullshit?


A trademark dispute in isolation isn’t related. But as part of a broader course of conduct in which the pursuit of commercial advantage consistently trumps other values, it is. We can disagree on this.




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