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You really have to be able to hold both opinions at once about Elon. Yes, Tesla and Spacex are unbelievable companies and perhaps nobody else on earth could have made them happen - so he’s a genius. But also he repeatedly promised autopilot, Tesla Semis, the space data center idiocy, DOGE, one million robotaxis by 2020 - so he’s a shuckster.

My current headcanon is that he remains an incredible leader and make-things-happen-er, but also that you should just assume all his announcements are complete bs and ignore them.


Musk has had very little to do with the actual Success of Tesla and SpaceX and a LOT to do with the recent failures of Tesla, with his constant lies about FSD and the epic failure of the Cybertruck. Tesla hasn't had a new CAR model since 2020! I'm so tired of people mindlessly assuming past "success" is a guarantee of future success in completely different industries and technology. This just proves how little they actually understand how anything works.


You literally don’t know what you’re talking about. If you’d read any biography of him you’d know how utterly wrong your claims are.


You really are a fanboy, huh. How do you handle all the lies Musk told while he was in charge of DOGE and all the damage he did? The richest man in the world destroying the aid organization that helps the absolute poorest for no reason at all is NOT a good look. In fact between Musk destroying USAID, his enthusiastic firing at Twitter and Tesla combined with his near complete lack of charity donations makes him one of the most selfish and sadistic men in the world.


I see you didn’t pay attention to what I did and did not say in my original comment. I’ve read a biography of him and When The Heavens Went On Sale, which covers SpaceX [Edit: I'd remembered the book incorrectly. I have read that book, but it doesn't cover SpaceX. The books that I'd read that cover SpaceX are The Space Barons: Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and The Quest To Colonize The Cosmos, by Christian Davenport, and Liftoff: Elon Musk and the Desperate Early Days That Launched SpaceX, by Eric Berger]. What you’re claiming about him is completely wrong and completely ignorant. I know you haven’t actually read anything substantial about him, because if you had you’d be fully aware of how stupid the claims you are making are.


Lets assume what you say is true about Musk THEN, it isn't true about current day Twitter addicted, drug addicted, brain damaged Musk at all. If he ever had any capability to execute and listen to advice the Cybertruck proves he doesn't anymore. Musk has learned how easy it is to fool people like you and is all in on it.


> Lets assume what you say is true about Musk

There's no need to assume. If you are actually educated on the subject, you know it is the case. You don't because you're ignorant about it. Which would be fine, if you weren't pontificating about things you know nothing anything about.

> current day Twitter addicted, drug addicted, brain damaged Musk

this is like conspiracy-theory level stuff.


No, his completely insane behavior while in charge of DOGE and his many thousands of insipid Twitter posts are very good evidence of it.




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