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Yeah I have no idea how someone who has used all these languages can come up with a conclusion like Dart is “uglier”. I really want to know what exactly they think is ugly about it!


Mostly its the core syntax, it's terribly noisy. Also parts of the implementation itself. While I cannot enumerate the taste, I can give you some examples.

For example:

- Class constructors cannot be in definition headers, i.e. class Something(Int a, Int b)

- The whole final and const/static const mess

- required is annoying and really "slapped on"

- shorthand syntax is => instead of =, personal pet peeve

- positional, named and optional parameters segregation makes things noisy

- concurrency, in which an event loop sounds like a great idea but ends up causing pain with multi-threading and background work so you have to spawn diff isolates

- the whole `await fn()` vs `fn()` validity issue, where you can miss the await keyword and it still compiles is such a slap in the face. think now they solved it, but you could also have returns from non-return functions and vice-versa.

- `dynamic` and generics in the same language have caused many bad designs

- extension types also feel hacked on

- type inference is annoying and highly contextual vs out of the box

- Worst sin: DateTime.now() returns different things based on the platform its running on, making it highly unreliable for something so important


I don’t want to sound harsh but that’s the least convincing list of language misfeatures I’ve ever seen. Almost every point is so minor I am surprised you didn’t mention having to type semicolons and similar incredibly inconsequential things.


They are minor, but that is why I called it ugly - not bad.

It's a matter of taste, and Dart's syntax style doesn't match mine. As much as I tried to enjoy it, after a while I just couldn't look at it anymore.

All of these accumulate and make it feel overly noisy for a lazy brain.


They have written their own UI framework. Probably the reason they are biased against other frameworks


I am biased - but mostly because I have actively used these in my career for quite a while now and encountered pains with both writing new code, upgrading old code and worst, inheriting code or helping debug someone else's code.

When given a choice, I'd rather use bland React Native nowadays than Expo or Flutter - one is a legacy addon to a framework, while the other sounds like a good idea until you step on a nail or have to read some _bad_ code. And there is a whoooole lot of bad flutter code out there due to relaxed language semantics.




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