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"You are given a set of constraints and facts, and you have to apply some set of rules (man made laws, or algorithms) in order to take the input and create a result that you want."

I'm a programmer and I have a law degree, but I don't quite agree with your assessment. Practicing law (as opposed to the study of it) isn't usually about applying the law to facts; most of the time, it's representing the facts in a way that is favorable to your party under a given set of rules. It's a lot more soul-crushing than I thought it would be (I still like the theoretical, academic aspects, so I stick to those areas now)

"I think it is for this reason that many on HN enjoy discussing the law"

Well now we're getting near a pet peeve of mine - the absolute cluelessness about law that most technologists have. Most take one or two paragraphs, read it literally in a way that is beneficial to their prejudices, and call themselves lawyers, using the 'law = algorithm' analogy. I see very little nuanced legal reasoning when it comes to topics nerds like to discuss (look no further than all the nonsense written about the Aaron Swartz case a few months ago, and the idiotic responses when people like Orin Kerr write an actually informed piece about it).



See, I found Orin Kerr's piece to be incredibly uninformed (as to the specifics of the case) because he literally wrote it by taking the complaint at full face value - this was despite the entire controversy being about whether there were facts to support allegations that Aaron was trespassing, broke and entered, stole property, etc...

but that's another topic, it was as you said at least more informed than the average person (but disappointing for a law professor and former CAFA prosecutor/defender).

and just to add to this conversation, I will have my law degree in a month and I'm just now starting to learn programming. I plan to use it in conjunction with things like Latex for building better briefs, building a robust issue bank, etc... - things that will enable me to be a better lawyer in practice.


Latex for briefs? Ah, the idealism of youth. (I was going to revolutionize legal research through artificial intelligence) Most lawyers don't have the time, and almost every court I practiced in had rules specifying a utilitarian uniformity that made fancy formatting superfluous.


I would agree. I think using Latex for a brief is likely to get a deputy clerk sending you a notice. District Courts will have local rules on formatting (with California having the oddest one I have seen yet).


What little similarity I found between the disciplines in law school evaporated in practice. I was at a middle of the pack Biglaw firm (not exactly chasing ambulances) and very few partners could form a logical argument. Not that they needed to - threats, leverage, and obfuscation were plenty effective with emotional clients, overworked/underqualified(domain knowledge) judges, and dumb opposing counsel.




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