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I like ember well enough, but sweet jesus it's huge. We have a page weight budget; 350k of ember plus 100k of jquery plus 50k of handlebars leaves about -150k for all the ad/analytics code the rest of the business needs. It's just not going to happen.

That's a serious advantage for angular - it's pretty small for what you get out of the box, and there are no external dependencies.

I saw in the Ember 2 RFC that they hope to slim down a little, which would be good (especially now that Angular is going mad), but for those of us who don't want to send a great hulking wodge of stuff to every P.O.S. phone that so much as glances at our apps, it's going to have to get a lot smaller.



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