Thank you for continuing to demonstrate the precise issues I'm trying to illustrate. I even quoted you and you refuted your own quotes ... absolutely stunning example.
Until lispers like yourself can get over these mental blocks, Lisp will continue to not be chosen as a computing tool. Right now it's requires too many qualifications, more downsides than up, and the community has deluded itself into being comfortable with those issues, and excusing them, rather than fixing them.
It's a cool language family, but it has lots of problems, and the state of denial the community is in about those problems won't solve them. Unfortunately, it's also a community of ideological purists who can't see the problems with their religion to fix them.
Lispers are right, once you commit to a Lisp, and it 'clicks' something in your thinking process changes, and I'm pretty sure it's not a good change.
edit and goodness, Amex doesn't use the lisp Auth Assistant anymore. What is this? 1991? You can stop bringing it up, they moved away from Lisp just like everybody else. And it never provided more than summarized database information as part of the larger authorization enterprise.
It's far more important for there to be new, or well maintained projects than to continue to rely on old, irrelevant glories that have long been surpassed by something else. Go out and write some and put them up on github! Do something interesting!
Until lispers like yourself can get over these mental blocks, Lisp will continue to not be chosen as a computing tool. Right now it's requires too many qualifications, more downsides than up, and the community has deluded itself into being comfortable with those issues, and excusing them, rather than fixing them.
It's a cool language family, but it has lots of problems, and the state of denial the community is in about those problems won't solve them. Unfortunately, it's also a community of ideological purists who can't see the problems with their religion to fix them.
Lispers are right, once you commit to a Lisp, and it 'clicks' something in your thinking process changes, and I'm pretty sure it's not a good change.
edit and goodness, Amex doesn't use the lisp Auth Assistant anymore. What is this? 1991? You can stop bringing it up, they moved away from Lisp just like everybody else. And it never provided more than summarized database information as part of the larger authorization enterprise.
Almost every single one of these examples is no longer relevant or decades old http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?CommercialLispApplications
It's far more important for there to be new, or well maintained projects than to continue to rely on old, irrelevant glories that have long been surpassed by something else. Go out and write some and put them up on github! Do something interesting!